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Related: About this forumBiden denied communion over abortion rights
Tell me again that religion isn't evil?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/29/politics/joe-biden-denied-communion-south-carolina-catholic-church/index.html
Father Robert Morey, the pastor at Saint Anthony Catholic Church in Florence, told the Florence Morning News that he had denied Biden communion because "any public figure who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching."
If you don't like abortions, don't get one. But don't tell me (or my family) what they can do.
Ohiogal
(34,632 posts)Nobody goes around advocating for women to get abortions.
Biden advocates for women to have the right to determine their own healthcare.
I get so sick and tired of hearing the right wing zealots calling it pro-abortion when it's not, it's pro-choice.
Voltaire2
(14,704 posts)It is a safe and simple procedure. If a women wants to terminate a pregnancy, abortion is an excellent choice. In fact it is pretty much the only choice. I'm a huge fan of safe and effective medical procedures.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I'm pro-contraception too, but failing that, if ANYONE is in a situation where they are not ready, willing, or able to bear a child, I'm pro-abortion.
I can't have kids, I adopted the only child I have, and I'm open to adopting another, but if ANY person who is pregnant is not willing to carry to term for ANY reason, I support readily available and accessible abortion.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)edhopper
(34,802 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(10,514 posts)that sound Father Morey??
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Advocate for women controlling their own bodies, NOT OK.
What a fucked up institution.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)But you get a retirement, legal defense, and if necessary travel expenses to escape prosecution.
Advocate for womens healthcare though and you go straight to hell.
redstatebluegirl
(12,477 posts)A friend was refused communion because one of the ladies in the church saw her name on a volunteer list for Planned Parenthood. I went home that day and told my parents I was finished with the church. It did not go over well, but I honestly did not care.
Voltaire2
(14,704 posts)Igel
(36,082 posts)Seems simple. I've always wondered why people say, "I don't like what my organization stands for. I know, instead of leaving it and find one I do like--or maybe starting my own--I'll try to make sure it abides by my values and those that joined it because they agree with it can leave. Hey, I get all the assets if I win! Cool! Ain't I just speerichul?"
Seems simple. Forthright and honest versus arrogant and grasping. But I seem to be in the minority. Many like to be preachers and try to reform others.
Note that I don't agree with the Catholic Church's teaching on many things and see no reason to join it.
Dorian Gray
(13,712 posts)people may use the philosophy toward evil ends, but in and of themselves, religions are just religions. (And yes, many people do utilize religious beliefs for bad/evil ends. That's undeniable. this is a semantics argument.)
Anyhow, back to communion.
I don't know how this priest could have made the decision to do this. I think it's BS. (I'm a practicing RC, so I have bread in this fight. Pun intended.) That the priest made this decision and then went to the press about it.... UGH. I'd be so pissed if I were his parishioner.
Cartoonist
(7,531 posts)It keeps humanity from the truth by offering up a fantasy world populated by mythical beings. It dismisses science by manufacturing their own reasons for the way things are. But worst of all, it creates an Us vs Them mentality that leads to wars. Yes, there are other causes for war, such as oil or land, but do we need to make up reasons?
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)Which while technically accurate conveniently ignores the fact that guns make killing people much more efficient.
So it is with organized religion. When someone is able to convince others they know what a conveniently unverifiable higher power is demanding of them, using that influence for nefarious purposes becomes much more efficient.
David Koresh and Warren Jeffs were able to convince their followers to bring their children to them so they could be raped with the full knowledge and consent from those followers. These are just two notable examples of things that happen every day hundreds of times all over the world. There is no philosophy which can be used in this way. This isnt a matter of simply semantics.
MineralMan
(147,576 posts)Thinking is better than assuming, generally. This is why the RCC is becoming more and more irrelevant all the time.
muriel_volestrangler
(102,478 posts)for running to the press to shout about his political stance against a politician. This is abuse of the privileged position religion is given by the US constitution. Then tell the Catholics to take it all out of his salary.