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Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 08:00 PM Nov 2019

Catholic diocese denies gay Michigan judge communion

New York (CNN)A church in Michigan denied Holy Communion to a state district court judge because she is married to a woman.

Judge Sara Smolenski, the chief judge of Michigan's 63rd District Court, received a call from the priest at St. Stephen Catholic Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan, requesting she not attend communion.

"This is not about me against the priest, and it's not really me against the church," Smolenski told CNN. "This feels like selective discrimination. Why choose gay people, and why now?"

Smolenski, 62, said that the Rev. Scott Nolan, the priest at St. Stephen for approximately three years, called her on November 23 and told her, "'It was good to see you in church on Sunday. Because you and Linda are married in the state of Michigan, I'd like you to respect the church and not come to communion.'"
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/30/us/gay-michigan-judge-communion/index.html

New RCC just like the old RCC. But hey, at least Pope Frank said something nice to a gay person once in private. Give them another couple of thousand years to evolve and maybe a gay person can get a wafer and a shot of grape juice.
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Catholic diocese denies gay Michigan judge communion (Original Post) Major Nikon Nov 2019 OP
Unchristian. Karadeniz Nov 2019 #1
Well that's exactly how the RCC feels about gay people Major Nikon Nov 2019 #2
On the contrary, given the history of the religion, it's decidedly Christian behavior. n/t trotsky Dec 2019 #9
Well shit. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #10
If only the gay judge were a pedophile instead then all would have been well with the abqtommy Nov 2019 #3
Ironic you can still get a wafer if you have sex with children Major Nikon Nov 2019 #5
Yet the RCC protected pederast priests for many decades. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #4
And still does Major Nikon Nov 2019 #6
I think that 100's of gay couples should show up for communion. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #7
It's been done Major Nikon Dec 2019 #8
I would rather 100's of right-thinking Catholics not show up for communion instead. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #11
Good point. Quit tithing. YOHABLO Dec 2019 #12

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
2. Well that's exactly how the RCC feels about gay people
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 08:31 PM
Nov 2019

The idea that anyone gets to decide who is entitled to be a member of the club seems to be the symptom of a much larger problem.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
10. Well shit.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:03 PM
Dec 2019

Somebody better let the sweeping majority of Christian clergy know they're doing Christianity wrong. I bet they'd want to know.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. If only the gay judge were a pedophile instead then all would have been well with the
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 08:34 PM
Nov 2019

Catholic hierarchy.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
5. Ironic you can still get a wafer if you have sex with children
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 08:41 PM
Nov 2019

But do not if you have sex with an adult. Funny how that works.

keithbvadu2

(40,108 posts)
4. Yet the RCC protected pederast priests for many decades.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 08:36 PM
Nov 2019

Yet the RCC protected pederast priests for many decades.

Even took Cardinal Law to the Vatican to shield him from prosecution.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
6. And still does
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 08:48 PM
Nov 2019

Cardinal George Pell has yet to be denied communion and is still on the RCC payroll despite being convicted for raping children.

Ironically he denied communion to gay parishioners knowing full well he was a child rapist.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
7. I think that 100's of gay couples should show up for communion.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 09:21 PM
Nov 2019

Let's see how that goes. Thou shalt not server communion to gay couples? Where is that written?

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
8. It's been done
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:19 AM
Dec 2019

The reaction from the church is feigned shock that anyone would dare use their venerated rituals as a means of protest.

Not surprisingly we see the same reaction from RCC apologists who defend other venerated rituals, even going to far as to defend particular rituals in the extreme example of when they are used to provide aid, comfort, and cover for child rapists. If someone so much as dare suggest those venerated rituals are less important than even children getting raped or some of the most oppressed in society being further marginalized, well that's just intolerance. It's as if tolerance somehow demands we must tolerate the most disgusting and vile actions so long as they are carried out in the name of religion.

To be fair this type of behavior isn't unique to the RCC. Right before our eyes we have people like the Vice President of the US carrying out a crusade of Christian dominance under the banner of religious freedom. This paradox of tolerance is playing out exactly as Karl Popper warned us about 70 years ago. While the idea of tolerance is certainly noble and vital, we should never underestimate the determination of the intolerant to weaponize tolerance against us.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
11. I would rather 100's of right-thinking Catholics not show up for communion instead.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:04 PM
Dec 2019

That would more effectively get the point across.

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