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edhopper

(34,848 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:55 PM Feb 2020

Why do religious people seem to have a bigger problem with atheists

than other believers whose beliefs are completely contrary to their own?

Not to generalize, but I have encountered this often.

I have talked to conservative Christians who are bugged by The Nones more than all the Muslims, Jews and Budhist.

"As long as you believe in something." Strange concept.

Thoughts?


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Why do religious people seem to have a bigger problem with atheists (Original Post) edhopper Feb 2020 OP
No good reason. elleng Feb 2020 #1
The answer is simple Major Nikon Feb 2020 #2
The whole Jews for Jesus thing is popular where I live. Jamastiene Feb 2020 #3
I feel your pain edhopper Feb 2020 #6
Only if you define "Christian" to mean "a good and kind person". Mariana Feb 2020 #17
Jesus said a lot of things about acting kind, helping the underpriviledged edhopper Feb 2020 #22
That may make them bad Christians. Mariana Feb 2020 #23
But I said act edhopper Feb 2020 #24
I grew up that way Major Nikon Feb 2020 #10
It's a bit like asking why BBQers have a bigger problem with vegetarians than RockRaven Feb 2020 #4
What you said. And you said it better than I was going to -- if you are already a believer, Nay Feb 2020 #14
God is the common denominator Cartoonist Feb 2020 #5
Budhists don't believe in God edhopper Feb 2020 #7
Do they have a problem with nones? Cartoonist Feb 2020 #9
I mean edhopper Feb 2020 #15
They think Buddha is a God Cartoonist Feb 2020 #16
They do edhopper Feb 2020 #20
Do Buddhists have a problem with nones Cartoonist Feb 2020 #21
For the same reason that people who like carburetors don't like fuel injectors LastDemocratInSC Feb 2020 #8
a no god is more frieghtening because of the emptiness it evokes. If you chose the wrong god, 3Hotdogs Feb 2020 #11
They hate the atheist who questions why some women have to cover their heads... trotsky Feb 2020 #12
If you believe in something, you're probably easier to convert. Camel's nose in the tent and all. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #13
The variability of human nature. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #18
Fear. Iggo Feb 2020 #19

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
2. The answer is simple
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:00 AM
Feb 2020

They know it's all nonsense, which makes open defiance of their belief system the biggest threat to the religious privilege they can't imagine themselves without.

Jamastiene

(38,197 posts)
3. The whole Jews for Jesus thing is popular where I live.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:13 AM
Feb 2020

They do not like ANY other religion than extremist right wing Christianity where I live. I haven't met any that have a bigger problem with nonbelievers than they do with Jews, Muslims, and in a lot of cases, even Catholics and Mormons. They get all uptight about Catholics and Mormons where I live to. We have exactly one Catholic church and one Mormon church in my whole home county. There are no non-right wing type churches here. We don't have any UCC or MCC type churches at all. Someone would have to drive 75 miles west to attend one those churches.

Anyone who is Jewish and wants to avoid an hour of misery listening to the high powered used car salesman style pitch about Christian churches they should be attending to save their soul, keeps their head down or learns to say Merry Christmas like they mean it.

It sucks here, in other words. People stop you in the aisles at the grocery store to demand you tell them which church you attend. I tell them I go to church online at a church in another state. That usually shuts them up.

That is an interesting question. I would like to know why there are some that have a problem with nonbelievers more than other religions. I know they hate atheists and agnostics where I live. At times, I have leaned toward agnostic and sometimes toward atheist and have always caught hell for it. When I tried Buddhism for a while, I just got the usual uninvited sermon from random people about going to Hell. It wasn't any different than the crap they give me for agnostic or atheist.



Mariana

(15,128 posts)
17. Only if you define "Christian" to mean "a good and kind person".
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:43 PM
Feb 2020

It does not mean that.

Anyway, the Bible says that Jesus very clearly instructed his followers to recruit, so Christians who do so *are* following Jesus's teaching.

edhopper

(34,848 posts)
22. Jesus said a lot of things about acting kind, helping the underpriviledged
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:43 AM
Feb 2020

not seeking revenge and how the rich are sinners. They don't follow those instructions.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
10. I grew up that way
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:04 AM
Feb 2020

I decided a long time ago I wasn't going to continue that way. I have no problem whatsoever telling them I'm an atheist or just telling them it's none of their business. If you feel like people polite after they have abandoned any sense of that word, just tell them thanks for the sentiment behind the sermon, but no thanks. I'm not buying what you are selling.

The only reason they think their tactics will work is for the moment within the confines of their ever shrinking mindset they have privilege. But that privilege shrinks a little more each day and the more extreme their tactics get, the more they insure its demise.

RockRaven

(16,286 posts)
4. It's a bit like asking why BBQers have a bigger problem with vegetarians than
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:14 AM
Feb 2020

those who insist that Eastern North Carolina-, or South Carolina-, or Memphis-, or St Louis-, or South Texas-, or East Texas-, (etc, etc)-style BBQ is better. [If anyone truly knows people who think that a non-meat-eater is MORE RIGHT than a meat-eater who is cooking their meat wrong, let me know, that sounds like a potentially interesting story]

You might be in total opposition to this other party, by the rules of your game, but *at least they are playing the same game* whereas atheists, like vegetarians in the other scenario, are flipping the game board because they reject the basic premise.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
14. What you said. And you said it better than I was going to -- if you are already a believer,
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:03 AM
Feb 2020

Christians know their attempts to convert you start at the baseline of "there is a god."

Atheists don't even believe there IS a god, so first the Christian has to convince you that there is such a thing as a god, THEN convince you that Christianity is the specific religion you need.

They usually don't have the wherewithal or the intellect to stand there and convince an atheist that there is a god. Often, they are stunned to discover an atheist in the neighborhood. Here's an actual conversation I had:

Christian: Have you heard the Word of Jesus?
Me: Yes, but I am an atheist.
Christian: (in shock) Why are you angry at God? What happened in your life?
Me: Uh, I don't think there is a god at all -- how could I be angry at something that doesn't exist?

Cartoonist

(7,532 posts)
5. God is the common denominator
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:16 AM
Feb 2020

As long as you don't question the existence of God, you belong to the same gullible club.

edhopper

(34,848 posts)
20. They do
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:04 AM
Feb 2020

just read a post on Facebook by a Christian who thinks the "young people who think religion is BS" are foolish and stupid.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,831 posts)
8. For the same reason that people who like carburetors don't like fuel injectors
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:27 AM
Feb 2020

Or something like that. Or maybe not that at all.

3Hotdogs

(13,411 posts)
11. a no god is more frieghtening because of the emptiness it evokes. If you chose the wrong god,
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:02 AM
Feb 2020

at least there was the possibility of after life existence. No god means you are completely alone. You can't ask for help in your math test, you can't ask for help, defeating your opponent on the football field, you can't even ask His help to kick Muslim asses. You ain't gonna meet the family again in 50 years. No front row seat in the heavenly palace next to Jimmy (who's next to Billy) or Billy (who's next to Pope Succus.)

You ain't even gonna sit next to the priest or pastor who buggered you or your kid because there ain't no Heavenly Throne or palace.

All that stuff comes to be sad, lonely and fearful.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
12. They hate the atheist who questions why some women have to cover their heads...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:25 AM
Feb 2020

more than they hate the religious group that forces them to cover their heads.

Religion. Yay.

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