Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
Fri May 31, 2024, 04:56 PM May 2024

Isn't the saint business getting a little awkward?

Some of the miracles attributed to candidates seem a little sketchy. And we eventually wised up to the fact that Mother Theresa was fundamentally a rather nasty person. I guess they need to keep on producing saints because it's just part of the deal.
https://m.jpost.com/christianworld/article-804505

6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Isn't the saint business getting a little awkward? (Original Post) SarahD May 2024 OP
Father Sarduci always said "you needa three miracles!" captain queeg May 2024 #1
I finally began to understand that the saint business depends mostly on good publicity rurallib May 2024 #2
Only for the last 400 years. Voltaire2 May 2024 #3
Science makes the world and religion smaller edhopper May 2024 #4
Personally I think they should go to the alter of the newest Saint to pray. Saint Fu state of stupid May 2024 #5
In Scene 2 of George Bernard Shaw's "Saint Joan" soldierant May 2024 #6

rurallib

(63,198 posts)
2. I finally began to understand that the saint business depends mostly on good publicity
Fri May 31, 2024, 05:02 PM
May 2024

Theresa had lots of publicity.

I often wonder if Jesus would have been promoted to gawd status had it not been for Paul

Voltaire2

(14,703 posts)
3. Only for the last 400 years.
Fri May 31, 2024, 05:18 PM
May 2024

Miracles got much rarer and less awe inspiring after science got in the way.

soldierant

(7,903 posts)
6. In Scene 2 of George Bernard Shaw's "Saint Joan"
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:16 PM
May 2024

there is an exchange between the Archbishop and LeTremouille (a high ranking soldier) about what a miracle is which is IMO well worth reading (or re-reading), regardless which side you personally are on.

(snip)

LA TRÉMOUILLE. Even when they are frauds, do you mean?

THE ARCHBISHOP. Frauds deceive. An event which creates faith does not deceive: therefore it is not a fraud, but a miracle.

LA TRÉMOUILLE [scratching his neck in his perplexity] Well, I suppose as you are an archbishop you must be right. It seems a bit fishy to me. But I am no churchman, and dont understand these matters.

(snip)

And the Archbishop's argument actually gets even stronger from there.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Religion»Isn't the saint business ...