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Is there any collective wiccan or pagan effort to banish SHitler and Muskrat? (Original Post) CousinIT Jan 27 OP
I'll happily partake in any type of ceremony Kittycatkat Jan 27 #1
We keep trying Deep State Witch Jan 27 #2
Everyone who opposes this regime is charged to call upon whatever powers they believe in to rid us of this plague biophile Jan 27 #3
there's a group on Fb FirstLight Jan 27 #4
I wonder if Voo Doo works. nt doc03 Jan 27 #5
I know it sounds crazy, but I do know someone who has practiced Mike 03 Jan 27 #15
Yes but it requires proximity Nigrum Cattus Jan 27 #18
To be clear Frasier Balzov Jan 27 #6
You are quite right Wicked Blue Jan 27 #8
Depends TommyT139 Jan 27 #17
Not wanting to stop heartbeats. Just get the dangerous crazies out of our government. CousinIT Jan 27 #12
There was during the first term. I can't remember the details but I think Mike 03 Jan 27 #7
Was this it? Wicked Blue Jan 27 #9
Yes, that is it! Mike 03 Jan 27 #11
This is what they did in 2017 Mike 03 Jan 27 #10
This is what I was thinking of. I guess "binding" rather than "banishing" CousinIT Jan 27 #13
Yes, something along those lines. Mike 03 Jan 27 #14
I don't think the binding was very effective Wicked Blue Jan 27 #16
During the first Drumph term... spinbaby Jan 28 #19

Deep State Witch

(11,623 posts)
2. We keep trying
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:01 PM
Jan 27

Some of us have been trying since 2015. Unfortunately political magick doesn't always have the outcome that you want. I would suggest reading Laura Tempest Zakroff's books.

https://lauratempestzakroff.com/

biophile

(599 posts)
3. Everyone who opposes this regime is charged to call upon whatever powers they believe in to rid us of this plague
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jan 27

Prayer, spells, Reiki, chants - throw it all at them!

FirstLight

(14,526 posts)
4. there's a group on Fb
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:09 PM
Jan 27

called Magical Resistance...it was "hex Putin" but it grew in scope...

Mike 03

(18,103 posts)
15. I know it sounds crazy, but I do know someone who has practiced
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:49 PM
Jan 27

voodoo and it seems to have been successful. I don't know where she learned to do this, and after it worked she stopped cold. This is when she was pretty young--in her early 20s or maybe late teens.

Frasier Balzov

(3,868 posts)
6. To be clear
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:15 PM
Jan 27

it is probably not ethical or legal to devote directed thought during an agreed upon time of day to stopping certain heartbeats.

Such thoughts are impermissible even without any physical assault planned and even from a distance in the comfort of your home.

It would be impermissible to use your energy in this way and would invite even more evil into the world.

If I'm right about this, which time of day would be the most unethical due to its indisputable efficacy?

Wicked Blue

(7,487 posts)
8. You are quite right
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:26 PM
Jan 27

and there's a part of the Wiccan Law of Three that says whatever one does for good or ill is returned three times over.

TommyT139

(995 posts)
17. Depends
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 05:19 PM
Jan 27

I read that comment as a reverse exhortation.

Regardless, the ethics depend on one's individual framework. If an attack is incoming, it seems ethical to prevent harm to those least able to defend themselves, whatever form that prevention might take.there may be consequences to that defense, of course -- but that is a different discussion.

CousinIT

(10,913 posts)
12. Not wanting to stop heartbeats. Just get the dangerous crazies out of our government.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:34 PM
Jan 27

Maybe they explosively fight one another or resign in embarrassment or whatever.

Mike 03

(18,103 posts)
7. There was during the first term. I can't remember the details but I think
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jan 27

it occurred once a month, either on a full or new moon. It was big enough that it made the mainstream press.

EDIT: This is important. It wasn't to harm Trump. It was called a binding ritual or something. The purpose of the spell was to render any actions he undertook to be ineffective. Even though I'm a Buddhist, there was nothing in the ritual that was a violation of my precepts, so I modified the ritual and participated for a month or two, then lost interest. But I think there might be some value in collective concentration, so I would probably do it again if the opportunity arose.

Mike 03

(18,103 posts)
11. Yes, that is it!
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:33 PM
Jan 27

Thank you!!

See my post #10

There are actually a whole bunch of articles on it.

I doubt I would have thrown out my copy of the spell, but I don't know where it is. Anyway, I'd only do it if that community was doing it. But I loved the idea at the time, and I wish they would do it again.

Mike 03

(18,103 posts)
10. This is what they did in 2017
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:32 PM
Jan 27

Each month, thousands of witches cast a spell against Donald Trump
How the witches of the #MagicResistance rise up against the Trump administration

by Tara Isabella Burton

Updated Oct 30, 2017, 3:19 PM UTC

Doucette — which is her married name, not her legal name — is one of the “resistance witches,” an at least 13,000-strong umbrella group of internet neo-pagans, Wiccans, solo practitioners who self-identify as “hedge witches,” longtime magical practitioners in various traditions, and committed activists. They’ve come together each month since Trump’s inauguration with one goal: to perform a spell — equal parts quasi-religious ritual and activist performance — to “bind” the president, forming a collective known as the #MagicResistance.

The spell, a variant on a traditional “binding” spell found in many contemporary neo-pagan and other occult practices, involves channeling energy to limit Trump’s power, “so that he may fail utterly/that he may do no harm.” (Practitioners have the option to add, “You’re fired.”)

Some members, like Doucette, cast the spell alone at home, communicating with fellow activists by Facebook Messenger around each monthly ritual, which is timed to coincide with the waning moon, and exchanging photographs of home altars. Others like Magic Resistance NYC’s moderator, known as Katherine Gojira, practice right in front of their stated enemy: casting the binding spell in front of Trump Tower.


More here:

https://www.vox.com/2017/6/20/15830312/magicresistance-restance-witches-magic-spell-to-bind-donald-trump-mememagic

CousinIT

(10,913 posts)
13. This is what I was thinking of. I guess "binding" rather than "banishing"
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:36 PM
Jan 27

Limiting the damage they can do. Not stopping heartbeats - I'D NEVER MESS WITH THAT. Too dangerous.

Mike 03

(18,103 posts)
14. Yes, something along those lines.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:42 PM
Jan 27

I totally supported the witches. And I believe, too , that these things make a difference and matter, and that there is way, way more going on here than meets the eye. There are spells in Tantric Buddhism too. At a certain advanced level, practitioners are authorized to do (or attempt to do) some actions that most people would not associate with Buddhism as it is understood in the west.

There is also Technical Remote Viewing and Technical Remote Influencing. I will be careful here, but there are tools for spiritual warriors.

Wicked Blue

(7,487 posts)
16. I don't think the binding was very effective
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 05:04 PM
Jan 27

Maybe invoking the Law of Three, seeking that they fulfil their own karma.

Another possibility is working with Marion Weinstein's Words of Power.

What is the essence of what we seek? Peace? Democracy? The rule of law? Justice? Safety? Domestic harmony/ We need to collectively come up with the best possible goal to work for.

A rough example:

There is One Power,
which is the source of peace
and I (name) am a manifestation of that Power
Therefore peace is mine (ours) here and now
I hereby release all negative causes, effects, manifestations, forms, and the essence of worry
And perfect peace is mine (ours)
For the good of all
and according to free will
and so it must be (so mote it be.)

My source is Weinstein's book Positive Magic, originally published in 1978.

One caveat is that you can't do this work on behalf of another person or persons without their permission. Or seek something that changes or otherwise affects them.

Instead, you focus on what it is that you yourself seek. And use a positive format assuming that this goal is already in your life.

spinbaby

(15,255 posts)
19. During the first Drumph term...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:20 AM
Jan 28

…a witchy friend told me that she put a picture of the orange menace into a jar, jammed a bunch of nails and broken glass into the jar, peed in the jar, and then sealed it up and buried it. I asked her much later if it did any good and her reply was that no, but it made her feel better.

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