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peace frog

(5,609 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:24 PM Nov 2012

Astrology buffs, you might find this interesting

... and/or disturbing, as I did, but make of it what you will:

Mercury coming to station exactly on a Black Hole is a rare event. It has only happened once before on Election Day in the U.S., and that was the calamitous election of 2000. Yes, the contest that brought us the Florida voting debacle, with its Palm Beach Butterfly Ballot, the mysterious 16,000 “anti-votes” cast for Al Gore in Volusia County, and the interminable recounts, with their fascinating new lingo of hanging, dangling, dimpled, and pregnant chads. A succession of legal challenges eventually led to a 5/4 split decision along Party lines in the U.S. Supreme Court, which handed the presidency to George W. Bush, loser of the popular vote, some five weeks later.

But that was a direct station, with Mercury poised to resume normal forward motion. In 2012 we’re dealing with a retrograde station, and the effect could conceivably be much worse. The period surrounding the station is known as the “Mercury storm,” and that’s a very apt descriptor, as the period can be chaotic, random, and turbulently hectic....

With Mercury on a Black Hole on Election Day, both advance and exit polls are virtually meaningless; whatever the pundits and experts say, this election has a mind of its own, and its outcome is very much in doubt. This also raises the specter of deliberate manipulation of the polls, in an attempt to either deflate enthusiasm or encourage over-confidence in one camp or the other, both of which can result in fewer voters bothering to show up...

Neptune here suggests that confusion and illusion will be the order of the day, along with a healthy dose of deception or misdirection. Beware electoral sleight-of-hand in the tabulation process, with electronic voting systems that are notoriously easy to hack and amend. Chiron evokes maverick behaviors and suggests a wounding of some sort, while Uranus rules shocks, upsets, regime change, and sudden, unexpected disruption, and also ties directly, via its rulership of electronics, to potential e-vote fraud.

http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/election-days-mercury-station

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Astrology buffs, you might find this interesting (Original Post) peace frog Nov 2012 OP
this 5:58 pm retrograde thing seems way overblown to me Tumbulu Nov 2012 #1
I'm with Tumbulu Sanity Claws Nov 2012 #2
You're a trusting soul. peace frog Nov 2012 #3
The votes are being "counted" at the end of the voting day peace frog Nov 2012 #4
I third Tumbulu magical thyme Nov 2012 #8
I hope you're right peace frog Nov 2012 #9
Oh, That's funny! icymist Nov 2012 #10
I doubt they'll pull out all their tricks for this one magical thyme Nov 2012 #12
One question I've been wondering about sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #5
Very good point Sandy... findrskeep Nov 2012 #6
I find it interesting that you find all this from the Mercury retrograde. icymist Nov 2012 #7
Don't shoot the messenger. friend peace frog Nov 2012 #11
Don't shoot the messenger?! icymist Nov 2012 #14
NJ residents affected by Sandy to vote via fax/email. mother earth Nov 2012 #13

Tumbulu

(6,440 posts)
1. this 5:58 pm retrograde thing seems way overblown to me
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:29 AM
Nov 2012

I am not an astrologer, but since that is at the end of the voting day, would it have that much impact? I could see if it began in the morning, but in the afternoon?

Plus I think that the trauma of the whole Bush nightmare has scarred us all into being perpetually worried that it will happen to us again. I fall into panics regularly now- triggered by any and all sorts of things. I am not the only one who falls into these fears.

I think that the media needs it to be close so that they can make all the advertising dollars that they can make. If they did not want all this money no way would it be this close.

Anyway, I am trying to wean myself from the fear and panic energy.

Sanity Claws

(22,031 posts)
2. I'm with Tumbulu
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:46 AM
Nov 2012

We've been there before and are prepared to handle it better. Obama has teams of lawyers everywhere to challenge any shenanigans. I trust Obama that has thought ahead and has prepared for some worst case scenarios.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
3. You're a trusting soul.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 05:22 AM
Nov 2012

I don't think Obama or anyone else outside the Republican party ahs prepared for what will happen on Election day.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
4. The votes are being "counted" at the end of the voting day
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 05:24 AM
Nov 2012

so wouldn't the retrograde have an impact? I'm worried about that, certainly.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
8. I third Tumbulu
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 11:12 AM
Nov 2012

The Obama campaign team has proven over the course of the entire campaign that they are top notch pros and are prepared for anything. The stolen ballots in PA resulted in arrests, there are places to report vote stealing and suppression, etc.

While some states have had to fight harder for EV, here in Maine the GOP tried to impose voter ID laws and ended up pushed way back. Instead of suppressing the vote, for the first time we have EV for everybody

I voted ahead of Sandy just in case. There's a nor'easter coming next week, but it won't hit until Thursday and so far looks like rain and maybe freezing rain overnight. Meh. This is Maine, not WV. Up here, a foot or so of snow is a dusting

That doesn't mean it won't be a fight every step of the way, or that the final results won't be delyaed, but I believe Obama's team is well prepared for GOP dirty tricks. This time the Supreme Court will be up against somebody who may actually fight for the Constitution and not allow them to override it!

I'm surprised that someone here actually think that only the GOP is prepared. They are pulling out their same, worn out bag of tricks. It worked before, so they expected it to work again. It hasn't and it won't. We did learn from our failure in 2000.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
10. Oh, That's funny!
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

"Up here, a foot or so of snow is a dusting" That's such a funny statement! You remind me of me! I moved from NE Ohio, where the snow would grow higher than the windows of the house, to Central Illinois, where the snow drifts would hide a semi-truck! Seriously, I don't think there is any place in this country of our that 'has it worse off'! We all have ours own crap and right now, New York has some very serious crap!

As far as dirty tricks go from the GOP, I don't think that even they have this one under control.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
12. I doubt they'll pull out all their tricks for this one
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:42 PM
Nov 2012

Romney is the type that is universally disliked. Rove will save his ammunition for 2016 and a candidate he prefers.

It's actually a good thing that Prez O faltered on debate one; it gave them all false hope and kept the money spigot headed to Romney instead of downticket.

Now we'll hold the senate and maybe make some gains in Congress. I would *love* to see a sweep, but that may be too much to hope for.

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
5. One question I've been wondering about
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 05:52 AM
Nov 2012

They say mercury can effect electronics, but it wasn't the planets it was Rove and crew. It wasn't just machines going haywire because of a certain alignment. It was man made. So maybe they will have problems with their dirty tricks, if electronics go wacky maybe they won't be able to manipulate it. They will have problems with the computers doing what they want.

findrskeep

(713 posts)
6. Very good point Sandy...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 07:53 AM
Nov 2012

I've been trying to look at the other side of this too and I feel like you may be on to something here...we have to also remember that we are creating as we go now too, so it's important to hold what you want to happen in your consciousness.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
7. I find it interesting that you find all this from the Mercury retrograde.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:37 AM
Nov 2012

There are other aspects happening.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
11. Don't shoot the messenger. friend
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:18 PM
Nov 2012

This was posted from another website as something interesting to read. Disagree with it all you like.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
14. Don't shoot the messenger?!
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:09 PM
Nov 2012

It offended you that I pointed out that there are other aspects than Mercury retrograde? How about play nice children.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
13. NJ residents affected by Sandy to vote via fax/email.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:48 PM
Nov 2012

Prelude to a certain amount of confusion? Certainly possible, given Rethug propensity for all manner of stealth and manipulation.
Let's hope the win is a landslide and nothing will stop the vote, not wind, sleet, snow or hail.

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