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panfluteman

(2,165 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:59 AM Dec 2015

The Bernie vs. DNC Scandal and Major Transits to the US Sibley Chart

I have a major transit coming up - Uranus is coming to a station and going direct exactly conjunct my natal Mercury at 16 degrees of Aries. And Uranus comes in and shakes things up.

Then the firewall scandal of Bernie vs. the DNC broke: Bernie, the true progressive who wants a political revolution versus the "Blue Dog" corporatist Democrats. I decided to google up the US natal astrology chart, the Sibley Chart, and see where this transit / station of Uranus was paying out in relation to the US natal chart. If you subtract about 3 degrees from the current position of the upcoming Uranus station in the tropical zodiac in order to allow for equinoctial precession in the 200+ years since the Declaration of Independence, 16 degrees of Aries becomes 13 degrees of Aries (what that actual point in the sky was way back then, since the 0 degrees Aries point or Vernal Equinox point of the Western tropical zodiac precesses, or moves backwards in relation to the fixed stars and sidereal zodiac, by about one degree every 72 years), you find that this upcoming station of Uranus on Christmas day will be making a very tight opposition to the natal Saturn of the US at 14 degrees of Libra in the 10th house, representing the corporatist establishment ruling elite or powers that be, and an even tighter square to the US natal Sun at 13 degrees of Cancer - Uranus is shaking up the national sense of identity. And the fact that this is a computer and electronics related scandal is also significant, since Uranus rules electronics, telecommunications and high tech. Interestingly enough, Uranus will come to a station and go direct in a tight trine (120 degree aspect of harmony and cooperation) with the US natal Ascendant at 12 degrees of Sagittarius - so we could well be able to weather this storm as a nation and come out alright.

So - this could be really big, folks! Since Uranus is making its station and going direct in the fourth house of the US Sibley chart, Uranus could rock this country to its very foundations with this one. And all three of the "Big Three" of the US natal chart - Sun, Moon and Ascendant - are involved. Here's a link to the USA Sibley Chart:

http://planetwaves.net/news/daily-astrology/the-sibley-chart-astrology/

See for yourselves, and be amazed! Merry Christmas, and hold onto your hats, everyone!

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The Bernie vs. DNC Scandal and Major Transits to the US Sibley Chart (Original Post) panfluteman Dec 2015 OP
this is very interesting, panfluteman NJCher Dec 2015 #1
John Hogue Delphinus Dec 2015 #2
I have a theory on who the 2016 Candidates will be. PADemD Dec 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author SheilaT Jan 2016 #4
If Jeb wins the nomination THERE HAD BETTER BE A REVOLUTION...CUZ THEY WILL HAVE STOLEN THE ELECTION onecent Jan 2016 #5
Meant to post back on this thread NJCher Jan 2016 #6
Interesting Sanity Claws Jan 2016 #7

NJCher

(37,757 posts)
1. this is very interesting, panfluteman
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:32 AM
Dec 2015
Uranus is shaking up the national sense of identity.

I'd like to remark on this. I have noticed that as the campaign goes on, the establishment types (example: Jeb Bush) who looked like such a sure thing, even to paranormal types, are now receding in importance.

Here is an example: John Hogue, who does prophecy using astrology and is a regular on the Coast to Coast AM show, has said all along that he thinks it will be a Hillary/Jeb match. That would be the old national identity--having these entrenched political families as our leaders.

Then, when Trump didn't flame out, Hogue seemed to feel compelled to understand the phenomenon a bit more, so he wrote a book on Trump. Here's what he says about Trump:

You say Trump is an oligarch. He is, but he is also a maverick one. I’ve often foreseen that only mavericks in the one-percent class have the power and finances to game their own system and change it. Actually Trump is freaking out the oligarchic class more than the Democrats because he’s never really been part of their club. Just study his life in depth and you’ll see he’s always been a bit of a rogue billionaire, like Ross Perot.

But he still sees Jeb as the candidate:

Moreover, I don’t rule out even corporate manipulation bringing Jeb Bush out from the polling polar cold if Trump flames out and doesn’t survive some rank stars tempting him to follow the more bombastic carnival barking angels of his spirit that get engaged just before the Iowa Caucus and don’t let go until April Fools Day. If he survives that trial of the early primaries, he’s probably going to face Hillary Clinton in November 2016. Then again, the GOP establishment might find a way to sabotage his chances and unearth Jeb Bush for that final run. Stranger things have happened, like my Oracle telling me it’s a Clinton vs. Bush run in 2016’s final race. It could still happen.

So despite Trump and despite Bernie's phenomenal popularity and despite this Uranus shake-up, Hogue still sees it as a Clinton-Bush contest.

BTW, here is how Hogue sees himself politically: I’m not a Conservative at all. Nor am I a liberal. I’ve progressed far beyond merely being progressive. I’m a “conserver.” I’m a neo-capitalist-communalist. I’m a full-blown Tantric-technocratic meditator-meritocrat who practices twenty-second century Dharmatocracy.

Whatever that means.

Also, I would like to add that Hogue almost entirely discounts Bernie. He says his oracles tell him America is not ready for a Jew to be president. I just don't see that, but then I live in a blue state, a very blue town, one of the most Democratic in the state, and one with a high number of Jewish residents.


Cher

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onecent

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5. If Jeb wins the nomination THERE HAD BETTER BE A REVOLUTION...CUZ THEY WILL HAVE STOLEN THE ELECTION
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jan 2016

NJCher

(37,757 posts)
6. Meant to post back on this thread
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:46 PM
Jan 2016

Hogue has backed off his prophecy on Bush. On the January 13, 2016 show:

Regarding the election, Hogue no longer thinks Jeb Bush has a chance for the Republican nomination, but that Donald Trump could secure it. He believes Hillary Clinton is likely destined for the presidency, yet of all the Republican candidates, Trump alone retains a possibility to defeat her.

See the rest of the show's summary at:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2016/01/13


See more (if you can stand to read it) at:

http://www.hogueprophecy.com/

He says the most ridiculous, off-the-wall things about Bernie. It shows he has no understanding at all of what Bernie is about.

I don't think he has the slightest idea of what's going to happen. The fact that he's changed his mind so many times shows that he has real difficulty just sizing up the situation, let alone seeing anything in the future. As a soothsayer, John Hogue is, to use a Trump term, a "loser."


Cher

Sanity Claws

(22,031 posts)
7. Interesting
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jan 2016

Are there any other sites you recommend for their predictions, whether based on astrology, psychic visions, etc.?

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