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no_hypocrisy

(48,677 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 09:21 AM Jul 2023

Many Christians are 'almost in despair' over what Trump has done to their faith: evangelical leader

Russell Moore, a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, said in an interview with Semafor recently that many evangelical Christians are secretly sick and tired of expending so much energy defending former President Donald Trump.

Moore said that, at its heart, this weariness comes from trying to reconcile the Bible's instructions for how to behave with the former president's allegedly criminal activities, not to mention his long history of alleged sexual harassment and infidelity.

"I’m hearing every day from evangelical Christians who are exhausted and almost in despair over the state of American Christianity," he told the publication. "They know something has gone terribly wrong but they are losing hope that anything could be different."

Moore went on to add that he believes "Trump to be a unique threat, both to American institutions and to the church’s witness."

-more-

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-evangelicals-2662335577/


American Christianity's Golden Calf

The False Prophet

The tradition of The Children's Crusade of 1212 where hoards of children left their families to liberate Jerusalem, and instead, were sold into slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade

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Many Christians are 'almost in despair' over what Trump has done to their faith: evangelical leader (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jul 2023 OP
LOL. Don't defend him, folks. YDogg Jul 2023 #1
'Bout time their heads MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #2
It's in his bible Matthew 7:15-21 Beachnutt Jul 2023 #3
Matthew 7:15-21 King James Version Trueblue1968 Jul 2023 #16
doeth the will Under Aug 2023 #19
A sincere welcome to DU. We walk in faith as individuals. We are judged by who we are as individuals marble falls Aug 2023 #20
thank you Under Aug 2023 #21
Wishful thinking rarely works out PJMcK Jul 2023 #4
There must be something in the book of theirs about making a deal with the devil. It never pays off Walleye Jul 2023 #5
Trump exposed Evangelical leaders as charlatans to their followers. Freethinker65 Jul 2023 #6
They have a simple choice as to which god they will serve. Chainfire Jul 2023 #7
"no man can serve 2 masters" matt 6:24 rampartc Jul 2023 #12
Wait, wut? 2naSalit Jul 2023 #8
Wasn't familiar with the details of the crusades... jmbar2 Jul 2023 #9
"the same fate as the crusaders" Effete Snob Jul 2023 #11
Oh boo hoo Effete Snob Jul 2023 #10
They made that toy, so let them play with it..... anciano Jul 2023 #13
Seduced by hate ThoughtCriminal Jul 2023 #14
Well, it is so sad you stupid freaks aligned politics and republicans UpInArms Jul 2023 #15
Not all Viet69Nam Aug 2023 #17
welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2023 #18
Stand up The Great Open Dance Oct 4 #22
Flaming Progressive Christians should identify themselves as such The Great Open Dance Oct 8 #23

Trueblue1968

(18,056 posts)
16. Matthew 7:15-21 King James Version
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 05:27 PM
Jul 2023


15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

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19. doeth the will
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 09:29 PM
Aug 2023

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

we become christians by faith, but continue by faith and works. also check James.

marble falls

(62,012 posts)
20. A sincere welcome to DU. We walk in faith as individuals. We are judged by who we are as individuals
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 06:36 AM
Aug 2023

Last edited Fri Aug 25, 2023, 08:05 AM - Edit history (1)

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21. thank you
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 09:50 AM
Aug 2023

thanks Marble

many of us forget that our faith goes with us wherever we may be. this forum is a good example, we can testify what makes us tick in detail which may normally not be allowed in some venues.

blessings forever.

Freethinker65

(11,102 posts)
6. Trump exposed Evangelical leaders as charlatans to their followers.
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 09:37 AM
Jul 2023

The question for followers now is, do you disavow everything you have been spoon fed and groomed to believe, or do you disavow your spiritual leaders?

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
12. "no man can serve 2 masters" matt 6:24
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 10:26 AM
Jul 2023

is appropriate for these "free market jesus" and "prosperity gospel" preachers and their flocks.

when i use it on other forums they usually have no clue that "mammon" is money, which would seem to be the first thing i'd wonder about.

2naSalit

(92,449 posts)
8. Wait, wut?
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 09:40 AM
Jul 2023

They fucking helped him get where he lead them, they FOLLOWED him right down the slope, well, more like drop chute but....

That's really rich that they now lament the fruits of their labor.

jmbar2

(6,055 posts)
9. Wasn't familiar with the details of the crusades...
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 09:49 AM
Jul 2023

A good metaphor for understanding the dilemmas faced by evangelicals who helped put and keep tRump in power.

I hope all those christofascists getting worked up to take over the world meet the same fate as the crusaders.

Thanks for the articles and links!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,271 posts)
14. Seduced by hate
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 10:55 AM
Jul 2023

If Satan really existed and wanted to create a church, it would not be dark dungeons with pentagrams. Instead it would be exactly what right-wing fundamentalists have created. Bright friendly places that twist scripture to justify bigotry and hate.


UpInArms

(51,758 posts)
15. Well, it is so sad you stupid freaks aligned politics and republicans
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 10:59 AM
Jul 2023

to your “faith.”

Go see if your sky daddy will save you.

22. Stand up
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 12:23 PM
Oct 4

Yes, but I propose that progressive and liberal Christians stand up for their faith, say that we're Christian and pro-choice, pro-environment, feminist, LGBTQ+ celebratory, and value other religions. If we hide, then the evangelicals will represent Christianity by themselves, and all will be lost.

Thanks,

Jon Paul Sydnor

23. Flaming Progressive Christians should identify themselves as such
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 07:25 AM
Oct 8

so the world knows that some of use practice the universal, unconditional, inclusive love of Christ instead of the fear, hatred, and anger of the world.

Respectfully submitted,

Jon Paul Sydnor

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