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Behind the Aegis

(54,852 posts)
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 03:26 PM Oct 2021

(Jewish Group) In Vilna, where 1000s were murdered, I learned it's difficult to mourn an absence

I did it all backward. Instead of taking my research trips before writing my book, like any normal historian would have, I’d waited. Only after I had completed my first draft of the book did I finally make my way to Lithuania and Vilna (now Vilnius), the capital of Lithuania during its brief moment of independence in the interwar period.

In June 1941, when German troops overran the country, Vilna was home to 55,000 Jewish residents and 12,000–15,000 refugees from German-occupied Poland. Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, the spiritual and academic center of Holocaust remembrance, described Vilna before the Nazis arrived as “the spiritual centre of Eastern European Jewry, the centre of enlightenment and Jewish political life, of Jewish creativity and the experience of daily Jewish life, a community bursting with cultural and religious life, movements and parties, educational institutions, libraries and theatres; a community of rabbis and gifted Talmudic scholars, intellectuals, poets, authors, artists, craftspeople and educators.”

The Nazis, with the help of some Lithuanians, destroyed all that. In September 1941, they imprisoned the Jews of Vilna in two separate ghettoes.

The smaller, filled with Jews deemed incapable of work, was liquidated after six weeks, with 10,000 of its residents massacred at Ponary, a forest just outside the city. The 30,000 Jews imprisoned in the larger ghetto were kept alive, barely, and sent off to work in nearby labor camps until September 1943, when the second ghetto was closed. Some 8,000 ghetto residents too ill to work any longer were sent to be shot at Ponary or to the Sobibor death camp to be gassed; a few thousand of the stronger men and boys were transported to suffer and be worked to death in Estonian labor and concentration camps; the strongest of the women and girls were sent to labor camps in Latvia.

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(Jewish Group) In Vilna, where 1000s were murdered, I learned it's difficult to mourn an absence (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Oct 2021 OP
Hitting me hard JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #1
Similar to how many white americans react to slavery DBoon Oct 2021 #2
And this is why a natural JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #3
Tears in my eyes all the way through. JudyM Oct 2021 #4

JustAnotherGen

(33,544 posts)
1. Hitting me hard
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 03:34 PM
Oct 2021

So similar to America . . .

The Jewish activists are proud of the progress they’ve made since 1991—and the declaration of Lithuanian independence—in integrating the history of the Shoah in Vilna into the history of Vilnius and Lithuania, proud of the memorials that have been erected in the city and at the killing fields of Ponary, proud of and seizing on every opportunity to educate rising generations about the city’s Jewish past. Still, it is an uphill battle that they and other Jewish residents in eastern Europe are fighting. The inhabitants of today’s Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania, do not want to be reminded of the sins of their fathers and mothers, or of the atrocities they witnessed or participated in. They would rather not revisit the past or, to be more accurate, they would rather revisit a sanitized past where Lithuanians were the victims of violence, not the perpetrators.


There are patterns in history - and patterns in humanity that repeat over and over. And that is terrifying.

DBoon

(23,052 posts)
2. Similar to how many white americans react to slavery
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 03:50 PM
Oct 2021

"... do not want to be reminded of the sins of their fathers and mothers, or of the atrocities they witnessed or participated in. They would rather not revisit the past or, to be more accurate, they would rather revisit a sanitized past "

JustAnotherGen

(33,544 posts)
3. And this is why a natural
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 04:08 PM
Oct 2021

Ally (for me) are Jewish Americans.

Those same Americans don't want to be reminded that so many Jewish Americans stood up for us (Black Americans).

JudyM

(29,517 posts)
4. Tears in my eyes all the way through.
Sat Oct 23, 2021, 10:21 PM
Oct 2021

Lithuanian Jews. I have always had such a depth of grief about this immeasurable loss.

Thanks for posting this. May their memory be for a blessing. ❤️ ❤️

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