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Related: About this forumBBC: Could airports make hydrogen work as a fuel?
Could airports make hydrogen work as a fuel?
BBC | Ben Morris | 23rd November 2023
On a typical day 1,300 planes take off and land at Heathrow Airport, and keeping that going requires around 20 million litres of jet fuel every day.
That's the equivalent of filling up your car around 400,000 times...
...France's Air Liquide has a lot of experience in this area. For around 50 years it has been supplying cryogenic hydrogen to the Ariane rockets of the European Space Agency (ESA)...
...One start-up, Universal Hydrogen, says it has a solution. It involves doing all the tricky parts of handling hydrogen away from the airport, probably at the facility where the gas is actually made.
The company has developed special tanks to hold liquid hydrogen (UH calls them modules), which can then be trucked to the airport. The modules are designed to slot straight into the aircraft, where they can be plugged into the propulsion system. No need for pipes, hoses and pumps.
...The modules are extremely well insulated and can keep the hydrogen in its liquid form for four days. Two modules would hold 360kg of hydrogen and would be able to fly an aircraft 500 miles, plus an extra 45 minutes of flight time in reserve...more
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67371275
can keep the hydrogen in its liquid form for four days. = Game Changer for LH2
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BBC: Could airports make hydrogen work as a fuel? (Original Post)
Caribbeans
Nov 2023
OP
In my opinion, selling fossil fuels and running ads for them and greenwashing them as hydrogen is not science.
NNadir
Nov 2023
#1
This person is NOT "Selling Fossil Fuels" and neither is most of the hydrogen industry
Caribbeans
Nov 2023
#2
NNadir
(34,593 posts)1. In my opinion, selling fossil fuels and running ads for them and greenwashing them as hydrogen is not science.
A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.
One forum here has already been polluted with these ads.
In science, as opposed to cheap marketing, the laws of thermodynamics apply.
One forum here has already been polluted with these ads.
In science, as opposed to cheap marketing, the laws of thermodynamics apply.
Caribbeans
(962 posts)2. This person is NOT "Selling Fossil Fuels" and neither is most of the hydrogen industry
Hydrogen House Project.org
https://hydrogenhouseproject.org/index.html
Scientific American in 2008: Inside the Solar Hydrogen house: NO MORE POWER BILLS EVER
A New Jersey resident generates and stores all the power he needs with solar panels and hydrogen
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hydrogen-house/
China is now the leader in Hydrogen - after just 6 years
https://chinahydrogen.substack.com/
When the US was saying fracking was the future China was subsidizing Solar Panels - now they own the industry. The same thing is happening now with hydrogen
NNadir
(34,593 posts)3. Hydrogen is made from fossil fuels at a thermodynamic loss. This is a fact. Anyone promoting hydrogen...
...as a fuel is promoting the increased use of fossil fuels.
Period.
Facts matter.
Caribbeans
(962 posts)4. Anyone can see - if they look - that some hydrogen IS INDEED GREEN
NNadir
(34,593 posts)5. What I see is a scam that has nothing to do with science, cheap dishonest marketing by coal interests.
In China, hydrogen is overwhelmingly made by the steam reformation of coal.