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Brainstormy

(2,428 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:41 PM Feb 2014

American Idol and spiritual advisers

Last night on American Idol I was shocked, and a little creeped out, to learn that this season, in addition to voice coaches, fashion experts, choreographers and the like, they've added "spiritual advisers" to the teams coaching the contestants. I suppose I could understand, almost, if this man and wife couple were psychologists and the idea was to help contestants deal with stresses of the competition. I'd still think that a little strange, but spiritual advisers? I've done a little digging today and discovered that, while there's a boatload of certification programs for various types of "counselors" you can pretty much become a non-denominational spiritual adviser just be declaring yourself one. That, though is still not really the point. What I want to know is, is it just me, or does anyone else find this not only inappropriate but downright weird?

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American Idol and spiritual advisers (Original Post) Brainstormy Feb 2014 OP
Back in the 80s Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #1
In Boston in the late 60s, early 70s, it was your travel agent. Warpy Feb 2014 #2
I am creeped out too. Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #3
Memo from the law firm for Religion Inc. onager Feb 2014 #4
Other Ways of Knowing LLC (lol) Brainstormy Feb 2014 #5
Ha! May be trademarked already. onager Feb 2014 #7
Lol. Iggo Feb 2014 #6
I would sooo love to be one of those advisers LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #8
Huh? I already replied to this thread? Damn I am good! Or maybe it cause the thread is a year old? LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #13
Why do people kick ancient threads? Warren Stupidity Jun 2015 #17
american idol spiritual advisers and the new age types democatman Jun 2015 #9
I already have a spiritual advisor Lordquinton Jun 2015 #10
and the meme grows edhopper Jun 2015 #11
What in the hell was the imaginary thing deucemagnet Jun 2015 #14
WhatWhatever you want to photoshop into it Lordquinton Jun 2015 #15
Has anyone met or heard of a "spiritual adviser" who wasn't a fucking parasitic leech... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #12
They should also use edhopper Jun 2015 #16
downright creepy and weird in my opinion as well. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #18
Scientology passed themselves off as life coaches olddots Jun 2015 #19
Oh.... they all think.... AlbertCat Jun 2015 #20
a sure winner on American Idol olddots Jun 2015 #21

Mr.Bill

(24,795 posts)
1. Back in the 80s
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:54 PM
Feb 2014

when you introduced someone as your spiritual advisor, it was code for them being your drug dealer.

I don't know how widespread this was, I heard it in the club scene in northern California.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
2. In Boston in the late 60s, early 70s, it was your travel agent.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:40 PM
Feb 2014

I never heard the west coast euphemism.

I guess they're getting these kids in the contests used to the idea of going broke paying an entourage.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. I am creeped out too.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:33 PM
Feb 2014

But I am also thinking that I might have come up with a way to quit my job......and find a new career. I think that I could enjoy being a spiritual advisor, especially if I don't have to be trained and certified.

onager

(9,356 posts)
4. Memo from the law firm for Religion Inc.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:13 PM
Feb 2014
Dear Pastor, Priest, Rabbi, Imam and/or Other Off-brand Religion Clergyperson,

It has come to our attention that a popular television show is offering help from "spiritual advisors."

These spiritual advisors appear to be untrained, unordained and self-proclaimed.

Left alone, these people could do irreparable harm. They might fill people's heads with superstitious nonsense about demon possession, faith healing, snake handling, virgin birth, resurrection after death, etc. etc.

This could set a dangerous precedent and we recommend immediate legal action. As we all know, these subjects are best left to trained professionals.

Faithfully yours,

Other Ways of Knowing LLC, A Legal Corporation

Brainstormy

(2,428 posts)
5. Other Ways of Knowing LLC (lol)
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:43 AM
Feb 2014

You should definitely incorporate under that name! A trademark? Or maybe a web page?

onager

(9,356 posts)
7. Ha! May be trademarked already.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:31 PM
Feb 2014

By another DU group. Hint, hint - the group name starts with an "R."

"Other ways of knowing" is often used over there as a comparison to regular ways of knowing. Like common sense. Or that awful thing - cold, inhuman materialistic science.

Without science, none of them would be yammering away on this contraption called "the Internet." But that irony seems lost on them.

LostOne4Ever

(9,597 posts)
8. I would sooo love to be one of those advisers
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:46 AM
Feb 2014

I would dump a ton of existential and moral nihilism on their heads and watch the results

democatman

(11 posts)
9. american idol spiritual advisers and the new age types
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:15 PM
Jun 2015

american idol spiritual advisers and the new age types, this is interesting, and strange also, they could of used something more like coaches who are music people like they do on the voice, who knows what the spiritual advisers could be up to, of course some of em will be really altruistic.

but that was a bit strange when they did that with american idol, if they are really good and honest spiritual advisers then cool, but how would you know either way?.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
12. Has anyone met or heard of a "spiritual adviser" who wasn't a fucking parasitic leech...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jun 2015

...living off the glut of the famous and/or wealthy?

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
19. Scientology passed themselves off as life coaches
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 04:25 AM
Jun 2015

if you want a product to make you feel better religion has one with nifty financing and a great identity you can hide in .

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
20. Oh.... they all think....
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 08:25 PM
Jun 2015

...... their ability to imitate other pop stars so well comes from some spiritual place.... instead of the radio.


American Idol SUX.


All those stupid shows trying to turn the arts (music, dance) into a sport suck.


(And this is an old thread..... but still...American Idol Sux!)

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
21. a sure winner on American Idol
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jun 2015

would be some putz doing a Jesus Christ Super Star Medly strapped to a prop cross .

In recent movie descriptions on Netflix check out the "faith & spirituallity " descriptions

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