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If youre in seventh grade, the Tennessee Board of Education says your social studies class must include discussion about what Islam teaches, how it spread throughout world history, and how Muslims have contributed to mathematics, art, literature, etc. Pretty basic stuff.
But a Christian group plans to hold a silent protest outside Vance Middle School in the city of Bristol today, because they dont want their children to be indoctrinated in any of this education bullshit.
The protest will be a silent Christian protest with signs and a banner, we hope to have at least 100 people show up, Emily Kausch, whos planning to attend, wrote in an email to the Bristol Herald Courier.
The organizer is parent Patty Kinkead, who said she is sort of the representative for Tennessee Against Common Core in this area. She said she removed her fourth-grade son from the Bristol Tennessee school system because of Common Core.
My son did go to Bristol Tennessee Schools last year and then I pulled him out to home-school him, Kinkead said Wednesday. Im involved with Tennessee Against Common Core. I want to actively educate people about what Common Core is and some of the parts of Common Core that are most offensive. One of the most offensive parts is the Islam content that is with Common Core.
Common Core sets standards. It doesnt dictate curriculum. Youd think someone vocally opposed to it would know that. But Kinkead doesnt exactly strike me as someone who puts much thought into this issue. Its Islam, therefore its evil.
What sort of protest signs will her group have, I wonder, to warn parents against the scourge of wait for it learning about people with different beliefs, especially when those beliefs have had a serious impact throughout history?
Is it even possible to understand world history without talking about what Islam teaches? Forget the middle schools curriculum. Id love to see what she uses at home.
To answer the question about what sort of protest signs they had here are some pics from a local article:
And here is a comment from an obviously well informed and totally rational Christian parent:
Carol Leonard Don't you call her a liar! You are the liar what are you a evil troll paid by the Common Core idiots or just plain stupid and ignorant!! If anyone knows the truth about Common Core she does moron. I myself have read filty books that they put in school for kids to read it's like porn and I've read some of it and it's disgusting. Also as Karen has said Islam is NOT A RELIGION they push the Quran in school. Not much is mentioned about God or Jesus but they spend 3 or 4 weeks talking about Islam and the Quaran. GO BACK AND READ UP ON IT BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR!! You are so wrong saying anyone is a liar about the evil Common Core and Islam. They both are evil! Islam wants all non jihad believers Dead per their Quaran do you not get it. Nope you have no brain to think with you have been brain washed so pitiful!!
Renew Deal
(82,931 posts)Because knowing things is bad.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Because we kicked Jeebus out of school.
They're not just ignorant they're hypocrites who want to force kids to learn their bigoted religious beliefs in public school.
Cartoonist
(7,532 posts)As an atheist, I see the conflict between Christianity and Islam to be a race to the bottom of stupidity.
I'm pulling my kid out of school because he might learn something.
We execute people for not believing in imaginary beings.
And I'm supposed to respect these idiots.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Don't forget the Jews!
Abrahamic religions are really the lamest. Abrahamic "philosophy"... that Good vs Evil thing, is so sophomoric. They are all worshiping the same imaginary god.
I lump Islam, Judaism and Christianity into Abrahamism. Those are just the 3 main sects of that ignorant, ancient fairytale. It should be taught that way, not as 3 different religions.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)These people have no fucking clue.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)progressoid
(50,748 posts)How appropriate.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)they really know how to show the worst the nation has to offer.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)We ignore them at our peril.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)As they realize that no, this isn't Jesusland, and yes, their day as the dominant religious domestic paradigm I'd over, ignoring "ya'll quaeda" isn't an option.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:27 AM - Edit history (1)
Charitable of you to include one her more cogent offerings here.
Oh, and a happy International Literacy Day to all!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I wonder how Betty celebrated?
bvf
(6,604 posts)Man, do I ever feel sorry for these people's kids!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Well hopefully with internet access at their fingertips it will be harder to keep all of these kids brainwashed.
They can keep them out of those filty (Betty's word) school libraries but good luck blocking teh interwebs.
mountain grammy
(27,277 posts)the question is, how far can we devolve?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)When uppity educated people either shut up or got burned at the stake.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)The rest of us will treat em like the Picts treated missionaries. *adjusts a head or two on spikes* Decoration in waiting.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Or so they say.
I guess that these parents are afraid that little Johnny might convert to Islam if he learns anything about any other religion.
And speaking of ignorance, that final comment you posted tells me all I need to know. Oy vey, I guess that the punctuation lessons taught in grade school were too far over her head.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)or terrified.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I am terrified that they are home schooling their kids!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)nil desperandum
(654 posts)who knew "Idiocracy" would wind up being a documentary film?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Exactly, while the rest of us look on in horror.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I'm not even sure what to say.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Where the inmates are still trying to run the asylum.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)entirely home schoolers save for one family.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They had to pull their special snowflakes out of the grip of the Muslim loving secularists, Common Core is the work of the Devil!
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)but their exta exactia est mentality where they are just using words that the education department has used for policies and making it up to manufacture outrage (where have I heard that sort of thing before?) instead of the real reasons it's not good (Usual sort of thing, test the kids until they drop) just make them look stupid, and other's job much harder.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's easier to grab the torches and pitchforks and have someone point you at the castle.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)And my letter home, and a PowerPoint:
We will learn about religions that may be unfamiliar to you. I know you're thinking, "But isn't it illegal to teach about religion in a public school?"
No, it's not. It's illegal to teach you what you should believe, but perfectly acceptable -- and smart in the 21st century -- to teach you about billions of other people's beliefs.
For instance: if I say "Devout Muslims are supposed to pray facing Mecca five times a day," that's perfectly legal. If I say, "Okay everybody, take out your prayer rugs so we can all pray," I'd get fired. And I'd deserve to get fired.
So far I haven't had a problem, but teaching about religions sometimes require me to educate people before I start educating them, if you get my meaning.
This lady's probably just crazy, though.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)No one is going to get converted in your classroom.
"This lady's probably just crazy, though."
Word.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)A few Nation of Islam kids needed a place to pray that they perceived as safe, plus permission to get out of class for a few minutes at noon (good kids, not troublemakers at all).
So who did they come to? Someone who was willing to go to bat for them with other teachers and administrators. You know, the complete atheist, obviously. (To be completely fair, they knew that I'm good friends with a devout Muslim and very close relative of Elijah Muhammad)
Their religion is bullshit, as are all religions. But a child's beliefs? Priceless, and something I'm willing to die for.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Kids are great, they haven't learned to hate yet. Wouldn't it be something if they never did?
Imagine.