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RussBLib

(9,666 posts)
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:04 PM Sep 2015

Shakira sings "Imagine" at UN, right after the Pope spoke

and Peter Mosely at Patheos reminds us of another still-glaring problem with the RCC that this Pope has done little to change.

I've heard better renditions of Imagine, but I think she's awesome to do that. It would be amazing to have her on our team.

from Patheos:

…singing John Lennon’s “Imagine” at a United Nations (UN) Conference right after the pope speaks is a ballsy move. But part of the reason she may have chosen that song is that she was there as a goodwill ambassador for the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), which is centered around gaining child’s rights and giving them emergency relief. Singing a song about how wonderful God before the pope spoke would have added more blinding light to Catholic church’s halo, the same halo that has enabled the sexual abuse of around 100,000 children.

As David Clohessy, national spokesman and director of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP), stated recently:

Francis is masterful at symbolic moves and public relations that foster the impression of reform but change little or nothing….
For years, Vatican officials have written letters to bishops about this scandal. But since virtually no bishop is ever punished for ignoring or violating church abuse guidelines or policies, many bishops ignore or violate them. So a letter from the pontiff to his prelates, regardless of content, is meaningless.

To be blunt, Francis hasn’t exposed one cleric who has committed or is concealing child sex crimes. Nor has he ordered any of the world’s 5,100 bishops to do so.

And he’s continuing the ancient, hurtful practice of dealing with abusers internally and essentially stiff-arming secular law enforcement. That’s inexcusable.


there's a video of her performance at the Original.
sorry for all the edits
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Shakira sings "Imagine" at UN, right after the Pope spoke (Original Post) RussBLib Sep 2015 OP
That is pretty cool of her. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #1
He said what? Cartoonist Sep 2015 #2
Good for her! nt valerief Sep 2015 #3
please tell me she sang ALL the words, as it's supposed to be sung, not like Cee Lo Green. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #4
About Shaki being an atheist.. Duppers Sep 2015 #5
Imagine there's no countries, it' isn't hard to do mountain grammy Sep 2015 #6
Wasted opportunity - they could have got Tim Minchin to sing this one: mr blur Sep 2015 #7
love it love it love it - n/t RussBLib Sep 2015 #8

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
1. That is pretty cool of her.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:18 PM
Sep 2015

I was just explaining this to a new poster in the other place, the Pope has refused to open up the Vatican records and turn over predators to the authorities. He talks a good game but that's all it is - talk.



Cartoonist

(7,532 posts)
2. He said what?
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:45 PM
Sep 2015

Pope Francis has twice infuriated child abuse survivors by focusing on how difficult the scandal has been on the church and highlighting the “courage” clergy members showed as the Catholic Church struggled with a public relations problem due to the child abuse accusations.
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In an instant, any leeway I have given this pope disappeared. He can go to Hell with all the other courageous clergy members.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
4. please tell me she sang ALL the words, as it's supposed to be sung, not like Cee Lo Green.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 01:39 AM
Sep 2015

If she sang it in its entirety, then

mountain grammy

(27,277 posts)
6. Imagine there's no countries, it' isn't hard to do
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:42 AM
Sep 2015

nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too...Imagine all the people living life in peace..

Take that UN and Pope Francis. Best hymn ever!

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
7. Wasted opportunity - they could have got Tim Minchin to sing this one:
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:43 PM
Sep 2015

THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK (or church)



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