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Related: About this forumKen Ham accuses Bill Nye of telling women what to do with their bodies
Outstanding rant in support of women's reproductive rights by Dan Arel:
September 28, 2015 by Dan Arel
If you look up the word hypocrisy in the dictionary, it should now have a link to Ken Hams latest blog post in which the creationist who calls abortion murder, accuses Bill Nye of telling women what to do with their bodies.
This weekend, science communicator Bill Nye, released a video on Big Think in which he said that anti-abortion advocates had no idea what they were talking about when it came to abortion.
Many, many more hundreds of eggs are fertilized than become humans, he says, because not all of those eggs will attach to a womans uterine wall and result in pregnancy. But if youre going to hold that as a standardthat life begins at conception and any egg thats fertilized has the same rights as an individualwell, Whom do you sue? Whom do you throw in jail? he asks. Every woman who has had a fertilized egg pass through her? Every guy whose sperm has fertilized an egg and then it didnt become a human?
In the video, Nye argued that abortion was a womans choice and not one we should be forcing on them because of personally held beliefs or because of our own ignorance about what abortion is.
Of course, somehow, Ken Ham watched that video and thought Nye was telling women what to do.
To clarify: Ken Ham believes abortion is murder and believes we must stop all women from having one. He believes in laws that make abortions illegal. He literally tells women they should never have an abortion. Yes, he is doing exactly what he is accusing Nye of doing.
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Ken Ham may be a minority in many of his beliefs, but his outright willful ignorance when it comes to womens rights and his blatant carelessness when it comes to fighting for laws that personally affect their bodies and not his own is dangerous.
Ken Ham is a villain, he is a horrible, moralless creature unworthy of even an ounce of human respect. Ham and others like him must have a light shined on them and we must ridicule their beliefs and ideologies. They dont deserve to be respected and we should not afford them the pleasure.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2015/09/ken-ham-accuses-bill-nye-of-telling-women-what-to-do-with-their-bodies/
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Oh, man, was that fun.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Dammit you have ALL the fun.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You motivated me to hunt it down, because it was around Christmas and I remember writing something about it called "I banned Ken Ham for Christmas" (this is what those memory cells are doing, which should be being used to remember to buy dog food. Sorry, pooch )
I posted it in meta, but i can still find it in my journal! Hmmm.
Here it is, from Dec. of 2012:
I think I have a new Christmas song
I banned Ken Ham for Christmas
I sent him his MIRT PPR
I banned Ken Ham for Christmas
I banned him, he wont get too far
Our Christmas feast was lacking
Our Pizza was looking quite bare
It needed some old time troll whacking
Some christmas Ham for MIRT to share
He wanted to give us the good news
How dinos and man got along
But I banned Ken Ham for Christmas
I called his shit silly and wrong.
Robert Hunter, i aint. Oh well, merry xmas everyone!
Edited to add: IIRC it was commentary (translation: open mockery) about this book which drew his ire or ired his drew or whatever.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)O. M. G.
The combination of correctly identifying the dinosaurs while portraying them as peaceful herbivores is just SO wrong.
Who would mock something so seriose?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)To argue "no, not fair, it's satire, no one actually thinks that" and the old chestnut "stop mocking teh DERPLY HERLD RELERGERS BERLERFS!"
But it's a page from Ham's book. For reals.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/02/ken_ham_s_books_and_museums_creationist_empire_starts_to_crumble_as_we_celebrate.html
And then he showed up to defend it in person.
Course there's only so much 'debate' you can have with someone who doesnt accept the most basic tenets of evidence-based logic.
As you are well aware, my friend.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)How can you debate with stupid?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Awesome! I hadn't heard about that!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)No frikken way am I masochistic enough to subject myself to that for 2016, though
mountain grammy
(27,277 posts)Hysterical! Thanks for digging that up
Now go feed the dog!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But he had a few incarnations before he gave up IIRC.
progressoid
(50,748 posts)He's someone I would swerve to splash water on if he were standing on the curb.
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