Oh, boy, I see where this is headed.

[PeaceNikki]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027220322

[DavidDvorkin]

1. Yep

And even if this report is debunked -- as I'm expecting it will be -- it will live on, just as the Columbine story did.

[beam me up scottie]

2. Yep.

And it will be used to prove there's a war on Christians too.

Fox news will have some help in their efforts to spin this tragedy.

[trotsky]

5. Yep it's already begun.

Was the byline on morning news: CHRISTIANS TARGETED

[AlbertCat]

6. Teenage eye witnesses under extreme stress make such reliable witnesses...

..... don't they?


If a nonChristian says this happened, then I will be a little less skeptical.

How many non-Christians could there be in this area?


Could the shooter have done this (if he did) JUST to cause trouble?


Religion is not what this incident is about.

[Heddi]

7. I read the book "columbine" by Dave Cullen - HIGHLY recommended

It is thoroughly researched and debunks so many of the claims and tales we've been led to believe about the whole thing -- that they were loners (not true), that they targeted Christians (not true). It was like the media set up this narrative and never diverted from it, even with surviving victims tried to correct the record.

Ah, but someone has to be a martyr. It's not bad enough that people were shot..no. CHRISTIANS WERE SHOT IN THE HEAD OMG and nonchristians were shot in the head big fucking deal who cares (is the attitude of some here)

[onager]

9. Seconded. Very good book.

Cullen really got down in the weeds and ferreted out the truth about Columbine.

I figured the same insta-myths would start up about Oregon.

Next we'll be hearing that a Xian was shot but miraculously recovered after spending 97 minutes in Heaven. Which is just like we all heard it was in Sunday School. Book/movie deals to follow.

[CrispyQ]

13. "...but miraculously recovered after spending 97 minutes in Heaven."

[AlbertCat]

8. All the news stories are about targeting Christians now.

Mission accomplished....

[Iggo]

10. Okay, so when xians are the victims, NOW it's about religion.

[frogmarch]

11. How many xians would have to be

shot in the head and non-xians in the knee before the other xians there decided to not say they were xians?

As someone on that thread said, the xian persecution story could be easily veriified by checking with the survivors.

[Goblinmonger]

12. It wouldn't take me long to decipher that pattern.

[Gore1FL]

14. He was religious.

He said in a letter he would be 'Welcomed in Hell and embraced by the devil.' Supposedly had a manifesto with "666" on it.

I have yet to find an atheist who believes in "hell," "The Devil," or the power of "666."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3257921/Oregon-college-gunman-kicked-Army-2008-emerges-police-seven-weapons-home-six-guns-school-including-assault-rifle-THREE-pistols-used-massacre.html#ixzz3njUUjx9h

[olddots]

15. once again the "news" fills 21 hours with 3 minutes of info

Toss in some jebus shit to sex up the story , can we get a hero angle and some shots of the candlelight ceremony ?