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WillParkinson

(16,866 posts)
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:43 AM Oct 2015

DC church says bike lane would infringe on its constitutional rights of religious free-dumb.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/10/14/d-c-church-says-a-bike-lane-would-infringe-upon-its-constitutional-rights-of-religious-freedom/

The District government is going through the rather municipally boring process of determining where to build a bike lane on the east side of downtown.

And one church has given a charged response to some proposals, saying that a bike lane near its property would infringe upon “its constitutionally protected rights of religious freedom and equal protection of the laws.”

The District Department of Transportation is exploring installing a protected bike lane going northbound and southbound somewhere between Fifth and Ninth streets NW that would connect to popular east and west protected bike lanes, such as M and L streets NW, or Pennsylvania Avenue NW.

United House of Prayer is located in the 600 block of M Street NW. Three of the four possible bike lane routes would run along at least parts of Sixth Street NW between Florida and Constitution avenues NW. There is now a bike lane going northbound on Fifth Street NW starting where the street becomes one way in that direction at the intersection of Fifth Street, New York Avenue and L Street NW.

The church, represented by a lawyer, wrote in a letter to DDOT, which WashCycle blog obtained and reported on, that the proposals along Sixth Street are “unsupportable, unrealistic and particularly problematic for traffic and parking.” The church, which says it has more than 800 congregants, notes that the Convention Center is in the area, which already exacerbates traffic and parking issues. Consequently, as many car lanes as possible on the street are needed.

The parking loss would place an unconstitutionally undue burden on people who want to pray, the church argues, noting that other churches already have had to flee to the suburbs because of similarly onerous parking restrictions. The church says that DDOT lets cars park diagonally on the street during busy times, which would be seemingly impossible if a protected bike lane were on the street.
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DC church says bike lane would infringe on its constitutional rights of religious free-dumb. (Original Post) WillParkinson Oct 2015 OP
Furthermore, the lawyer argued, it would be a sin for congregants to ride bicycles to church Fumesucker Oct 2015 #1
Of course. And there's a good reason for that. onager Oct 2015 #2
Ha! progressoid Oct 2015 #5
Whaaaaaaaaa! Brainstormy Oct 2015 #10
And they can't take the bus, because... DetlefK Oct 2015 #3
Bike lanes suck anyway Major Nikon Oct 2015 #4
United House of Prayer? progressoid Oct 2015 #6
Charles Manson! n/t trotsky Oct 2015 #8
"an unconstitutionally undue burden on people who want to pray" trotsky Oct 2015 #7
If they want to pray, they can do so in private (Matthew 6:5-6) sakabatou Oct 2015 #11
Well.... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #9

onager

(9,356 posts)
2. Of course. And there's a good reason for that.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 07:26 AM
Oct 2015

Explained by the old story about two nuns newly assigned to a Belgian convent. They went out on their bicycles one weekend for a long ride.

"Oh, this is wonderful," said the first nun. "I've never come this way before."

"Me either," said the second nun. "Must be the cobblestones."

DetlefK

(16,451 posts)
3. And they can't take the bus, because...
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:34 AM
Oct 2015

For example, in my city, when a big game is on, people don't drive to the stadium and park there. There are dedicated bus-stops all over the city near the biggest parking-lots. You park your car there and you go to these bus-stops that only exist for the shuttle-buses that bring fans to the stadium and back.

One bus packs 100 people, and there are at least 5 dedicated bus-stops... and we have a good chunk of those 800 congregants covered.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
4. Bike lanes suck anyway
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:48 AM
Oct 2015

All they really are for is preventing cars from getting stuck behind a bicycle even though they don't help the flow of traffic to any measurable degree. Meanwhile it decreases the safety of the cyclists because they are now in areas of intersections where cars are less likely to see them.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. "an unconstitutionally undue burden on people who want to pray"
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:16 AM
Oct 2015

Their complaint puts an unconstitutionally undue burden on people who want to think. Good grief.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
9. Well....
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 12:20 PM
Oct 2015

as long as they are spending church dollars on the important stuff.


Seems like a way to get rid of the half-hearted prayers. If you really want to pray earnestly, you'll walk or take the Metro.... or even bike yourself to salvation.

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