Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumChristians tell me all of the time there is evidence of God, I ask
them to provide me with 1 piece of evidence without the Bible or their faith. There response it's everywhere. My response is show me one place where I can find it. Their response you have to find for yourself it's their if you want to find it. WTF?
There is no evidence but it is their belief that he exists.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)In their gut they feel it must be so, so it must be so!
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)line my God is real but yours isn't without evidence a God exists.
bvf
(6,604 posts)pounded into their heads since preschool.
Duppers
(28,246 posts)or sunrise, etc. How can you not think that there's a god ... who made that just for US? Don't ya know we're the center of the universe?
And they think the Universe = solar system where the sun and all planet revolve around us.
Oh, and I'll pray for you.
Yep, I heard this too many times.
bvf
(6,604 posts)they'll pray for me, I tell them I forbid it, but still give them the option of cash or credit.
Prayer gives the illusion of actually accomplishing something. Convenient, no?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)and see that return.
mountain grammy
(27,277 posts)uriel1972
(4,261 posts)And tell me again about your wonderful God.
JHC on a crutch there are so many horrible and dangerous things happening and you're going on about butterflies being the proof of God.
(not directed at Duppers, but the people who smarm on about all things bright and beautiful...
Reality sucks, but it's all we got.
Duppers
(28,246 posts)If god created Everything, why did he....?
They've got NOTHING and are always cherry-picking.
In one of my very favorite videos, the fabulous Stephen Fry puts it so well....
mr blur
(7,753 posts)See?
Warpy
(113,130 posts)and I tell them poetry aint proof. Most of the time I think it's either a fear of not believing or a hard wired true belief, a variant on the Third Man Factor. Mostly, I don't really give a shit, whatever gets someone through a dark and lonely night is none of my business. I only object when they try to put their silly dogma into civil law.
Brainstormy
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(28,246 posts)convince the delusional to vote for them, which we know happens all too often. I'm convinced that our political climate would be very different if religion were abandoned.
Also, I'm not fond of being labeled evil.
edhopper
(34,836 posts)we just have to solve for "X".
QED
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Are they not afraid of being smitten by his mighty hammer?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Clearly the handiwork of Thor himself.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Duppers
(28,246 posts)Thanks.
Iggo
(48,271 posts)DetlefK
(16,455 posts)We are talking about two incompatible philosophies here: belief and doubt.
Religion is rooted in belief. Belief is accepting a statement, no matter how small the evidence.
Science is rooted in doubt. Doubt is NOT accepting a statement, no matter how big the evidence.
You cannot treat the subject God with scientific means, just as you cannot treat scientific matters with religious means.
Let's ask this the other way round:
"And which spirits and daemons are responsible for these quantum-mechanics? How are they related to the spirits and daemons that govern the finite velocity of light?"
You see? Two absolutely different ways of looking at the universe. Instead of tackling the problem whether God does or doesn't exist, we should tackle the problem which of the two philosophies is correct.
There is a major difference between them:
The "philosophy of doubt" is compatible with the formulas of random sampling in statistical mathematics. The "philosophy of belief" is incompatible with this math.