Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:59 AM Apr 2016

These Atheists Saw God’s Not Dead 2 So You Don’t Have To

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/04/02/these-atheists-saw-gods-not-dead-2-so-you-dont-have-to/

Anyway, Chris Line, a law student who works with the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has perhaps the best rebuttals to the plot points in the film. For example, would a group like FFRF actually sue this teacher?

A group like FFRF or the ACLU likely wouldn’t even lodge a complaint with a school over this sort of trivial mention of Jesus, let alone file a lawsuit. There are plenty of cases of actual school proselytization to keep them busy.

What about the parents who file the lawsuit? In the film, they’re told they’ll make a lot of money and their daughter (the student in Grace’s classroom) will likely be accepted into Stanford as a result of the case.

Contrary to what the movie suggests most Establishment Clause cases seek nominal damages or no damages at all and only seek an injunction preventing the school district from taking a similar action in the future. The reality of Establishment Clause cases is that lawsuits are really about keeping church and state separate and not about receiving fame, notoriety, or huge sums of money.

It goes on like that for a while. It’s almost like the writers of the movie never bothered to check out the facts… shocking, I know.
5 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
These Atheists Saw God’s Not Dead 2 So You Don’t Have To (Original Post) pokerfan Apr 2016 OP
Well edhopper Apr 2016 #1
they no doubt turned to the "good book" to check their facts rurallib Apr 2016 #2
Is it MST3K worthy? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #3
I would doubt... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #5
The desperation so many Christians have to make themselves into persecuted victims is nauseating. trotsky Apr 2016 #4

rurallib

(63,166 posts)
2. they no doubt turned to the "good book" to check their facts
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:02 PM
Apr 2016

and decided they, too, could make up facts as needed

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. The desperation so many Christians have to make themselves into persecuted victims is nauseating.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

And it's not isolated to one end of the political spectrum - it even happens on DU.

Latest Discussions»Alliance Forums»Atheists & Agnostics»These Atheists Saw God’s ...