Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:39 AM May 2016

Custom Wristband CEO Donates Proceeds from Massive “Debunk Evolution” Order to Pro-Science Group

RapidWristbands is one of those companies that makes custom wristbands for anyone who wants them. And that means anyone.

Recently, CEO Fiyyaz Pirani got an order from a Creationist ministry that wanted the message “Debunk Evolution” on a whopping 100,000 wristbands. (Who knows where they were going to hand those out.)

Pirani had no legal right to say no to them; it’s not like this was hate speech. But, as someone who understands science, he was conflicted.

So he decided the company wouldn’t keep the profits:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/06/custom-wristband-ceo-donates-proceeds-from-massive-debunk-evolution-order-to-pro-science-group/

20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Custom Wristband CEO Donates Proceeds from Massive “Debunk Evolution” Order to Pro-Science Group (Original Post) IDemo May 2016 OP
Brilliant! PatSeg May 2016 #1
why dont Christians understand that retrowire May 2016 #2
Why don't Christians understand SCantiGOP May 2016 #3
the bible is not absolute. retrowire May 2016 #4
Because some Xtians DON'T think the Bible is up for interpretation NickB79 May 2016 #5
Which is humorous because most of those don't bother to study MH1 May 2016 #17
It's devolved into a folk religion Warpy May 2016 #18
Christians understand that. 'Christians' don't. eom Betty Karlson May 2016 #6
Christians understand that. 'Christians' don't. AlbertCat May 2016 #7
I think your definition of Christianity is rather dogmatic and exclusive. Betty Karlson May 2016 #9
is rather dogmatic and exclusive. AlbertCat May 2016 #11
Dogmatism and substantial uniformity are two different matters. Betty Karlson May 2016 #12
Dogmatism and substantial uniformity are two different matters. AlbertCat May 2016 #13
You are in the Atheist and Agnostic group Lordquinton May 2016 #19
So what exactly are the majority of purported Christians then whatthehey May 2016 #20
Because in some cases they really can't coexist Major Nikon May 2016 #10
Let em try to "debunk" it. AlbertCat May 2016 #8
Sure they can Major Nikon May 2016 #14
God says so, period. AlbertCat May 2016 #15
Close Major Nikon May 2016 #16

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
2. why dont Christians understand that
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:02 AM
May 2016

The theory of evolution and religion can coexist?

After all, the Bible is up for interpretation anyways.

SCantiGOP

(14,201 posts)
3. Why don't Christians understand
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:06 AM
May 2016

That the bible was written by superstitious peasants 2,000 years ago?
That's why it states as fact that the sun revolves around the Earth and there was somehow enough water to cover the mountains due to a rainstorm.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
4. the bible is not absolute.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:13 AM
May 2016

People need to wrap their minds around that.

I remember reading an article about how religion just turns off certain parts of the brain to reason. Wish I knew where. But it's why religion has such power in politics and such.

NickB79

(19,602 posts)
5. Because some Xtians DON'T think the Bible is up for interpretation
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

Creationists who think the world really was made in 6 literal days, there was a global Great Flood, and the world is only 6,000 years old, for example.

MH1

(18,127 posts)
17. Which is humorous because most of those don't bother to study
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

the ancient languages in which the Bible was written.

So they ARE trusting the interpretation of various translators.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
18. It's devolved into a folk religion
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:12 PM
May 2016

with the bible itself used as a talisman against evil rather than a book to be read and considered.

The people who will pay for these bracelets at their little wingnut churches are borderline idolators.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
7. Christians understand that. 'Christians' don't.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016

No , Christians and "Christians" are both Christians and no Christian doctrines understand it.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
9. I think your definition of Christianity is rather dogmatic and exclusive.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:36 AM
May 2016

Which would suggest your idea of Christianity is a "Christian" one.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
11. is rather dogmatic and exclusive.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

Said the "Christian" dismissing Christians with the "no true Scots" fallacy.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
12. Dogmatism and substantial uniformity are two different matters.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

I would indeed argue that those who take the Bible diachronically are all Christians, even if their specific interpretations may be different at times.

But those who take the Bible as a recepy book full of context-less quotes (which is why the literal truth of individual verses may not be contested in their view) - indeed, those only call themselves Christians, but in their hearts lives a different faith.

I notice however, that there is some anger or pain behind your words. Whichever it is: please understand that I don't intend to bait you, only to respond to the content of your reply. The first reply I responded to expressed a hope that those who identify as Christians would see that evolution theories and Biblical truth are not mutually exclusive. I tried to assure him / her that many Christians indeed understand that. (Though not usually as violently, pendantically, and vociferously as those who oppose such notions.) Everything after that is a discussion about specific diacretic symbols I used.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
13. Dogmatism and substantial uniformity are two different matters.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:56 AM
May 2016

Blah blah blah....

Religion is ridiculous.

And evolution happened regardless of whatever version of the Jesus myth one falls for. Christianity has nothing to add, support, or even do with evolution. Its input into science is not there and of no importance.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
19. You are in the Atheist and Agnostic group
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:56 PM
May 2016

And you are spouting typical anti-atheist arguments, particularly the "angry" one, none of which are welcome here.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
20. So what exactly are the majority of purported Christians then
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:56 AM
May 2016

Who are these dark blue folks? Pagans? Muslims? They sure identify as Christians, By what criteria do you assign their scare quotes, and by what authority?



And you can't really be all that sure with the light blues as a chbunk of them seem to think the old Elamite sky god is doing the RNA job




Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
10. Because in some cases they really can't coexist
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

There are those who believe the bible is a fax from god and isn't up for interpretation. Not only that, by bible they mean the King James version exclusively which is known to contain several obvious translation errors and outright heretical editing centuries after the time of Christ.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
8. Let em try to "debunk" it.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:30 AM
May 2016

They just sound like Ken Ham.
They can't debunk it.... no matter how many bracelets they waste their money on.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
14. Sure they can
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

God says so, period.

See how easy that was. No more than 3 or 4 synapses actively firing required.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
16. Close
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:44 PM
May 2016

You need 4-5 synapses to get Ken Ham. He asks tough questions like "Where you there?". It takes at least 6 synapses actively firing to realize that argument works both ways.

Latest Discussions»Alliance Forums»Atheists & Agnostics»Custom Wristband CEO Dona...