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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:44 PM May 2016

I've heard the Dali Lama...

...claim he doesn't use a phone or a computer.
This was in the context of being 'unattached'.

You can damn well bet the staff he relies on does. His claim rang hollow to me bordering on charlatan.

Just sayin'.

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I've heard the Dali Lama... (Original Post) SHRED May 2016 OP
Buddhism and Atheism are not incompatible, to my way of thinking. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #1
I posted here because... SHRED May 2016 #2
Im not offended, not at all. Just throwing that out there. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #3
Like all of us... SHRED May 2016 #4
Which is why bob dobbs says, "kill me, or twice your money back" Warren DeMontague May 2016 #6
My "guru" told me years ago... SHRED May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2016 #10
Keep on Truckin' SHRED May 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2016 #13
if the thunder doesnt get me, then the lightning will. AlbertCat May 2016 #23
It's a metaphor, open to subjective interpretation. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #26
It's a metaphor, AlbertCat May 2016 #27
You really want to argue about this? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #28
"What is the sound of one hand clapping?" onager May 2016 #17
Nice SHRED May 2016 #18
Great GIF OBTW!! SHRED May 2016 #9
... Warren DeMontague May 2016 #11
Buddha was an atheist Warpy May 2016 #19
I agree with your post 100%. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #21
Buddhism and Atheism are not incompatible, AlbertCat May 2016 #22
do we have to trust your memory, or do you have a citation Chiquitita May 2016 #5
He was asked SHRED May 2016 #7
I hear you. It comes off as a bit pretentious. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #14
I'm famous for that SHRED May 2016 #15
Egads. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #16
Yes, like the world leaders who never carry any money Warpy May 2016 #20
I hear Mother Teresa wore a cheap $1-something sari and walked to the Vatican to see the Pope. AlbertCat May 2016 #24
Holy crap... SHRED May 2016 #25
Dont get me started on Mother Teresa. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #29

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. Im not offended, not at all. Just throwing that out there.
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:53 PM
May 2016

What I know about the Dalai Lama- admittedly not a ton- is he probably could laugh at himself about it, too.

He did have one quote about "God"- something to the effect of "God", or the concept thereof, is a small mystery. The great mystery is the self.

I would agree with that sentiment, and I'm about as much of an Atheist as there is.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
4. Like all of us...
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:01 PM
May 2016

...we've got these things called egos.
It's just when so-called "leaders" act like they are somehow past theirs I get a bit dismayed. Mostly for their followers who buy it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. Which is why bob dobbs says, "kill me, or twice your money back"
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:05 PM
May 2016


I hear you. the true gurus teach people to listen to themselves, instead of gurus.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
8. My "guru" told me years ago...
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

..."there will be no following".

"You kick people in their feelings and help them with their being."

"Be good and then feel good...in that order."

Among other profundities.


Response to SHRED (Reply #8)

Response to SHRED (Reply #12)

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
23. if the thunder doesnt get me, then the lightning will.
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:46 AM
May 2016

Well, the lightning comes first, and the thunder is just a sound. How is it supposed to "get" you?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. It's a metaphor, open to subjective interpretation.
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:21 PM
May 2016

But I take it to mean that there are certain basic, obvious inevitabilities to existence that we can't do anything about.



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
28. You really want to argue about this?
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:11 PM
May 2016

I think Robert Hunter is one of the greatest poet/lyricists of the past century, but hey- your mileage may vary. Like licorice, as they say.

And yes, I understand what thunder and lightning are.

onager

(9,356 posts)
17. "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

A slap upside the head of anybody trying these derpities on me.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
19. Buddha was an atheist
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

who successfully fought all the gods and demons of his day by realizing they were creations of his own mind.

There's a lot of folk religion around some sects of Buddhism. Those are largely incompatible with atheism.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
22. Buddhism and Atheism are not incompatible,
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:43 AM
May 2016

Well, since the Buddha isn't a god (until some of his followers turned him into one)....

Chiquitita

(752 posts)
5. do we have to trust your memory, or do you have a citation
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

to show he actually once made this claim? Seems made up to me, especially since he admits to noticing having attachments (to things like his wrist watch) and never claims to be a superior person. Anyway, Buddhist philosophy doesn't have anything against using computer technology. It's like a pen, just more sophisticated. Using technology doesn't mean you have "attachment" necessarily.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
7. He was asked
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:09 PM
May 2016

So there's that.

It was an interview on TV. It may have been 60 Minutes. It's been awhile sorry.
I remember how it struck me and my wife. We called bullshit right away.

He's a good guy.
I just can't abide with the whole "following" concept I guess.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
24. I hear Mother Teresa wore a cheap $1-something sari and walked to the Vatican to see the Pope.
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

Of course she didn't walk from Deli to Rome....

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
29. Dont get me started on Mother Teresa.
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:36 PM
May 2016

The Dalai Lama may be guilty of pretentiousness, but she did real damage.

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