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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,947 posts)
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:00 AM Mar 2017

Controversy Over Crosses on Proposed Villanova Bridge, being paid for by penndot.

Radnor Township last night approved a controversial pedestrian bridge planned for Villanova’s campus.
At first, it seems like there’s no reason for the bridge to be controversial. It’s part of a $285 million expansion project for the University, and will be built over Lancaster Avenue. It’s scheduled to finish in 2018.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/02/28/controversy-over-crosses-on-proposed-villanova-bridge/#A75eKVxM27iZ7r86.99

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/28867-ffrf-protests-penn-funding-of-crosses-on-villanova-campus

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Controversy Over Crosses on Proposed Villanova Bridge, being paid for by penndot. (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2017 OP
I am Buddhist and it does not bother me in the least. Doreen Mar 2017 #1
why are "we" expected to live and let live... uriel1972 Mar 2017 #2
No offense, but that's inane. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2017 #3
Fine. They can pay for their "pretty crosses" with their "pretty money" Heddi Mar 2017 #4
"If Jesus was hung, would we pray to a rope?" -- Gordon Downie of The Tragically Hip FiveGoodMen Mar 2017 #5
George Carlin once said if Jesus arrived in the 20th century mountain grammy Mar 2017 #6
They can do what they want, but not with tax money. Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #7

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
1. I am Buddhist and it does not bother me in the least.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:12 AM
Mar 2017

If you do not like them do not look at them. Personally from the drawing I think it looks nice. The only problem I would ever have with this type of thing is if those who want crosses tried to fight other religions on having their symbol on public spaces also. Just because I am not a Christian does not mean I do not think that there are pretty crosses. I have had friends that are Atheists and Agnostics and this would never had been a deal with them. For the ones I knew it was "live and let live" as long as the people were good to others.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
2. why are "we" expected to live and let live...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:39 AM
Mar 2017

but not "them"? Why is it always "us" who have to give ground?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
3. No offense, but that's inane.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:49 AM
Mar 2017

Why is it wrong to legislate religious doctrine, but OK to use public money to erect religious symbols? Both violate the Establishment Clause. It's a distinction without a difference.

And frankly, I would argue this chickenshit "live and let live" crap only emboldens those leading the religious intrusion into secular institutions.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
4. Fine. They can pay for their "pretty crosses" with their "pretty money"
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:20 PM
Mar 2017

Villanova is hardly an institution that is scraping to get by.

They can live and let live as much as they want with their own private funds.

Once my tax dollars (and yes, my tax dollars -- I still pay a percentage of my $$ to PA even though I live in FL) pay for it, it's not live and let live. It's a government funding of a religious institution's bridge

I'm glad your friends don't have an issue with the intrusion of religion into the public sphere. Take a look at the recent posts I've made in teh Religion group about the intrusion of Religion into public schools. GIve them an inch and they take 15 miles.

No thanks. Not on my dime.

Maybe they can hold a fucking bake sale like public schools in Philly have to do to get any kind of gov't money for expenses that isn't covered by the local/state budget. Oh but Villa-fucking-nova gets a goddamn bridge with pretty crosses. How twee.

Leaches, all of them.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
5. "If Jesus was hung, would we pray to a rope?" -- Gordon Downie of The Tragically Hip
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:07 PM
Mar 2017

What if they wanted the design to include an Iron Maiden? Or a blade on a pendulum? Or a Rack? Or a Catherine wheel?

My point is, the cross is a torture device and if Christians want it there, then they want it there to promote their very brutal view of humans (that we all should be tortured forever although their god arranged to get himself tortured and thereby -- somehow -- let us off the hook).

The design, in abstract -- just two intersecting lines -- isn't the problem. The message is the problem.

mountain grammy

(27,292 posts)
6. George Carlin once said if Jesus arrived in the 20th century
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 06:39 PM
Mar 2017

people would have little silver electric chairs hanging around their necks..

Yes, it's the message, and tax $$$ shouldn't be spent on a religious message.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
7. They can do what they want, but not with tax money.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 09:40 AM
Mar 2017

That is a non-starter. I shouldn't have to pay to have religion shoved down my throat.

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