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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 03:31 AM Mar 2017

Pat Robertson (On Thursday): God Is Going To Give Trump Victory With the GOP Health Care Bill

Pat Robertson (On Thursday): God Is “Going To Give Trump Victory” With the GOP Health Care Bill
March 25, 2017
by: Hemant Mehta

You’ll never believe this: Pat Robertson was wrong about something.

Okay, that’s not news, but it’s entertaining as hell to watch the day after House Speaker Paul Ryan and Donald Trump failed miserably in their quest to make 24 million people suffer more so that rich people could get even richer.

On Thursday, Robertson told his viewers on The 700 Club that the American Health Care Act was definitely going to pass and “the Lord was going to give Trump victory.”

"It’s going to go through the Senate, and we’re all going to rejoice that we’re going to pay less on health care,]” he said, despite the fact that if enacted, most people would see their premiums skyrocket.

Robertson said that “he knew that the Lord was going to give Trump victory” and that God is using the president to do great things.

They’re going to get it,” he said. “They’re going to give it to the president. Mark my word: it will pass. They will get those extra votes. It will go through. They’re going to work together to give us tremendous health care.


***

Will Robertson apologize for lying? Will he admit he was wrong? I doubt it. He’s hoping that viewers will just forget what he said, which shouldn’t be hard, given his typical audience. Good thing there’s video evidence.

(via Right Wing Watch)

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/03/25/pat-robertson-on-thursday-god-is-going-to-give-trump-victory-with-the-gop-health-care-bill/


Pat is as prophetic as ever, God must not be speaking to him anymore.


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Pat Robertson (On Thursday): God Is Going To Give Trump Victory With the GOP Health Care Bill (Original Post) beam me up scottie Mar 2017 OP
It looks like Pat ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #1
Bigly! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #3
"inadvertently", ay? LakeArenal Mar 2017 #39
Good point! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #47
Wow just wow Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #2
The fact that Trump is president only reaffirms my atheism. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #4
He's the one that created the original sinner.... LakeArenal Mar 2017 #40
Another quote from a late great: beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #41
Sounds just like Dump, too. LakeArenal Mar 2017 #43
+100 narnian60 Mar 2017 #19
I really don't get it. trusty elf Mar 2017 #5
LMAO! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #7
I think it comes from that same part of the brain SticksnStones Mar 2017 #33
I can't stand that phony luvMIdog Mar 2017 #6
His core audience must be dying off at a pretty fast clip. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #8
Lots of Trump supporters sound like him saying Trump is doing God's work - Good grief luvMIdog Mar 2017 #9
They're staggeringly hypocritical. I don't understand how their minds work. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #11
Like when he was talking about his translator's breasts exboyfil Mar 2017 #25
When I think of Pat Robertson, which fortunately is not often, vlyons Mar 2017 #10
Well said. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #12
But he's always been like that. defacto7 Mar 2017 #48
Sorry PAT SOMEONE TOLD you something that was complete yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #13
Could it be... beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #15
Lol! Happyhippychick Mar 2017 #35
As if a god , any god , would choose Donald Trump as the vessel of good works. nocalflea Mar 2017 #14
All good questions. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #16
I'm afraid that the concept of doing the right nocalflea Mar 2017 #17
God will probably end up giving a package of Charman Norbert Mar 2017 #18
Sounds like a plan. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #20
Jesus would never charge a copay TEB Mar 2017 #21
Neither would the Flying Spaghetti Monster. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #22
Yeah, and if GWC58 Mar 2017 #44
It comes from a couple of ideological grounds and a mistaken self-view. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #30
Excellent post. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #37
I'd have more respect GWC58 Mar 2017 #45
When I was in charge of 'adopting' a family at Christmas that's how we did it. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #46
Just like God elected him President 20 years ago - he's on a roll! n/m bagelsforbreakfast Mar 2017 #23
LOL! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #24
Stupid is as stupid does. mdbl Mar 2017 #26
Yes but a spectacular fail like this is rare, this happened the next day. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #27
We'll see mdbl Mar 2017 #28
Oh I know they'll figure out a way to square it in their own heads. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #31
Wow - so what's the going rate for a soul these days? ButSeeYa Mar 2017 #29
If souls exist Pat sold his long ago. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #32
It's "Gods work " to yank healthcare from 24 million people? Happyhippychick Mar 2017 #34
Well it's not really anything new. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #36
So.Not.About.Victory elias7 Mar 2017 #38
What a loser! Sad! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #42

LakeArenal

(29,821 posts)
39. "inadvertently", ay?
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:21 AM
Mar 2017

Have you read that book of his..? They have been purveying fake news for over 2000 years.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
4. The fact that Trump is president only reaffirms my atheism.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:01 AM
Mar 2017

I'm reminded of that old quote about God and evil often attributed to Epicurus:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?


LakeArenal

(29,821 posts)
40. He's the one that created the original sinner....
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:23 AM
Mar 2017

Still holding a grudge over his imperfection 6000 years later...

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
41. Another quote from a late great:
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:02 PM
Mar 2017
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

- Gene Roddenberry

trusty elf

(7,482 posts)
5. I really don't get it.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:08 AM
Mar 2017

Why does anyone think that this old fraud is anything other than a snake-oil salesman?

How can people be so fookin' gullible!

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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. His core audience must be dying off at a pretty fast clip.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:16 AM
Mar 2017

I think the young'uns prefer the flashy new Bapti-domes with their gawdawful Christian 'rock' bands.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
11. They're staggeringly hypocritical. I don't understand how their minds work.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:22 AM
Mar 2017

These are the 'family values' voters - the disconnect is stunning.

exboyfil

(18,007 posts)
25. Like when he was talking about his translator's breasts
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:48 AM
Mar 2017

I am hoping for that special hot mic moment.

Won't make a difference though. These folks support a Supreme Court nominee that is less compassionate than the craziest men of God from the Old Testament.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
10. When I think of Pat Robertson, which fortunately is not often,
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:22 AM
Mar 2017

the words that come to mind are "stupid senile old fart." Robertson is an object lesson in cults and a type Christianity that has degenerated into "prosperity Christianity." The basic tenets of which go something like this: When you follow God's law, he will bless you with good fortune, good health, and prosperity. But you have to have strong faith in the cult leader and show your faith by giving the cult leader money. People are poor because they are sinful and immoral and don't have faith in the cult leader.

This is a pernicious preying on gullible people. It has very little to do with Jesus teachings of feeding the poor, healing the sick, practicing peace, and loving thy neighbor. You don't have to believe in god to be a good person with a kind and loving heart. You just have to be a good person.

defacto7

(13,612 posts)
48. But he's always been like that.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:43 AM
Mar 2017

35 years ago... exact same prophesy format and display... and call in your pledge bs.

Someone is keeping him on business. Must be god.. or some other malevolent beings.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
14. As if a god , any god , would choose Donald Trump as the vessel of good works.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:30 AM
Mar 2017

Why is moral bankruptcy so prevalent among the fundamentaists ?
The belief that one cannot live a moral life without the belief in god has always astounded me.I always wanna ask these folks -What immoral acts is their fear of hell preventing them from committing ?

Nothing like being on the wrong side of morality , huh Pat ?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
16. All good questions.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:37 AM
Mar 2017

I've been asked how I can be a moral person without a belief in God. As if religion created morality or has a monopoly on it. How arrogant can you get? It's infuriating.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
17. I'm afraid that the concept of doing the right
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:48 AM
Mar 2017

thing because it's the"right thing" to do, is lost on these people.

Norbert

(6,544 posts)
18. God will probably end up giving a package of Charman
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:49 AM
Mar 2017

to clean up the lumpy fart of an ill-fated Republican health care plan.

The rest of the Charman will be stuffed in the mouth of the leader of Christian Hate movement. Yes, that's you Pat.

TEB

(13,712 posts)
21. Jesus would never charge a copay
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:12 AM
Mar 2017

I do not get the right wing nuts attitude that this is Christ like the need to repeal health care Christ fed the poor healed the sick

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
22. Neither would the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:16 AM
Mar 2017

I can't wrap my head around anyone praying for others to lose their health care - and it has nothing to do with what religion they belong to.

What kind of person actively wishes for others to suffer so the guy they voted for can get a win?

Of course these are the same people who want to force women to carry their rapists' fetuses to term and think lgbt people don't deserve human rights.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
44. Yeah, and if
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:26 PM
Mar 2017

the women attempt to give the child up for adoption they are publicly shamed. Jeb! Bush did just that a few years ago. "You'll have the child and you will keep the child." That is really authoritarian!

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,945 posts)
30. It comes from a couple of ideological grounds and a mistaken self-view.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:04 AM
Mar 2017

First there is the fiscal conservative idea that government should not forcibly take (taxes) and redistribute to the poor. That's "socialism" or "communism". That's what the Romans did through Herod. But paradoxically Republicons and christian RWAF adore Rome for its power and order and authoritarianism (lots of overlap between christians and RWAF).

Secondly, there is the idea that "god helps those who help themselves". It is the idea that hard work should be rewarded and needy people don't work hard. It is reinforced by the framing of language like "welfare queens". It shows itself in Republicon statements like Chaffetz saying that poor and people with pre-existing conditions need to choose between getting an Apple phone or health insurance / care.

The mistaken self-view is that they view themselves as "very charitable". They think that charities could and should do all the helping of the needy. They do not realize that the most charitable people, by percentage of disposable income, are the poor. The average RW christian is middle class and gives some money to churches and charities, many of which have high overhead, and some of which have CEOs and mega-pastors who live very high indeed.

So they overrate their charity and underrate the needs of people and ideologically endorse strict government fiscal conservatism.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
37. Excellent post.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:11 AM
Mar 2017

One local Baptist church puts on a big televised event here every year at Christmas, they select several local families in need and instead of quietly delivering the gifts to them they make a huge spectacle out of it. They bring the families up on stage one by one, explain how they've fallen on hard times and then they bring out the gifts - one at a time and with much fanfare. They stop after each one is handed out so the well-to-do audience can clap and feel good about themselves. It's excruciating to watch because you can tell some of the families are embarrassed because they have to rely on charity and are uncomfortable being used as a photo op.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
45. I'd have more respect
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:31 PM
Mar 2017

for them if they did it real quiet like, without all the fanfare and the "look at all the good deeds we're doing."

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
46. When I was in charge of 'adopting' a family at Christmas that's how we did it.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:45 PM
Mar 2017

We dropped off the gifts when the kids weren't home so the parents could enjoy their children's excitement in private on Christmas morning. Charity isn't all about making YOU feel good. If it is you're doing it wrong.

The most depressing 'adoption' was when we purchased gifts for patients in a nursing home. They were so happy with the simplest things - all that mattered was that someone remembered them.

mdbl

(5,488 posts)
26. Stupid is as stupid does.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:54 AM
Mar 2017

Robertson is a moron of the highest order. He shits stupid phrases and religious BS all day.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
27. Yes but a spectacular fail like this is rare, this happened the next day.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:59 AM
Mar 2017

Not even his audience forgets that quickly.

mdbl

(5,488 posts)
28. We'll see
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:01 AM
Mar 2017

they are pretty resilient in their belief systems. All it will take for Pat is to say it worked out like he said and they all turn east and bend over, or something like that.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
31. Oh I know they'll figure out a way to square it in their own heads.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:05 AM
Mar 2017

I just like the idea of him having to scramble to try to do damage control so soon.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
32. If souls exist Pat sold his long ago.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:08 AM
Mar 2017

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."

- Denis Diderot

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