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BBG

(2,960 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:28 PM Oct 2017

Riddle?

The maternal unit likes to riddle me with: How can an atheist exist if there is no god?

Can someone untwist that enough to help with a cogent response? I always get twisted up on the illogic of the query and sputter off about how nonsensical it is.

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Riddle? (Original Post) BBG Oct 2017 OP
Because mommy and daddy had sex? angstlessk Oct 2017 #1
The ID fallacy Cartoonist Oct 2017 #2
Pshaw... Ohiya Oct 2017 #3
Existence of atheists proves one thing BBG Oct 2017 #11
proof of existence does not prove there is a god Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #4
Atheists have nothing to do with any gods; that's the whole point after all. nt procon Oct 2017 #5
That's not a "riddle" to be answered. It's a riddle to be laughed at. Binkie The Clown Oct 2017 #6
Oh yeah, laughter BBG Oct 2017 #10
It's not a question of atheists defacto7 Oct 2017 #7
Bingo! BBG Oct 2017 #8
Or flip it back shadowmayor Oct 2017 #9
I kinda like that BBG Oct 2017 #12
How can a theist exist if there is no atheist? GeorgeGist Oct 2017 #13
My answer to believers when they ask me this is Mr.Bill Oct 2017 #14
It sort of reminds me of the idea of Ignosticism. defacto7 Oct 2017 #15
How can a Christian exist if Allah is the real god? trotsky Oct 2017 #16
That's nonsense. Iggo Oct 2017 #17
Ask is she believes in Thor. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #18
Atheist isn't a species or a religion. It's just a current status... Freelancer Oct 2017 #19
How can cookies exist if there are kids running around? DetlefK Oct 2017 #20
HEY! A HERETIC I AM Oct 2017 #23
The MATERNAL UNIT is asking you where babies come from? DetlefK Oct 2017 #21
No, thats not it BBG Oct 2017 #22

Ohiya

(2,433 posts)
3. Pshaw...
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:34 PM
Oct 2017

That's a meaningless question. Why can't an atheist exist without god?

If god existed, would he cease to exist if there were no believers?

BBG

(2,960 posts)
11. Existence of atheists proves one thing
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:13 PM
Oct 2017

That there are still unenlightened people arguing for the existence of their own god entity.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
4. proof of existence does not prove there is a god
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:36 PM
Oct 2017

if there is one god does that prove millions of gods??
does it prove that your god is the creator??

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. That's not a "riddle" to be answered. It's a riddle to be laughed at.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:14 PM
Oct 2017

Ask her how can a Christian exist if there is no Odin? Makes as much sense, which is to say, none at all.

BBG

(2,960 posts)
10. Oh yeah, laughter
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:09 PM
Oct 2017

That was the first response but then I always got stuck on explaining what was so funny.

defacto7

(13,610 posts)
7. It's not a question of atheists
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:32 PM
Oct 2017

it's about the argument. If the argument exists then a term for those who take a side in the argument can exist. If there is no argument over the existance of a deity then atheists would not exist because theists and atheists would not be necessary terms.
The term will always exist as long as the argument of a deity's existance is part of human history.

BBG

(2,960 posts)
8. Bingo!
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:53 PM
Oct 2017

The atheism only defines where I exist in relation to the surreality of belief in a god entity. Thanks, this is the best answer to aid me in responding to the silly riddle.

Mr.Bill

(24,795 posts)
14. My answer to believers when they ask me this is
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:46 PM
Oct 2017

I don't know. And neither do you, the Pope, Billy Graham or anyone else.

The difference between you and me is I am content with that, and you are in a lifelong quest for the answer.

defacto7

(13,610 posts)
15. It sort of reminds me of the idea of Ignosticism.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:58 PM
Oct 2017

How can there be an argument about the existance of a god if the term "god" is not defined unambiguously? Therefore, how can I be non anything that has no definition? Maybe I'm adefinitionlessideologies. It's only an argument about a concept with named characters. You can do the same in theoretical physics.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,170 posts)
18. Ask is she believes in Thor.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:52 PM
Oct 2017

When the answer is no, tell her that, by her logic, that proves that Thor exists.

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
19. Atheist isn't a species or a religion. It's just a current status...
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 06:14 PM
Oct 2017

My current status is atheist-adjacent-agnostic. Anytime God decides to switch off his cloaking device, or we find a haiku written in turtle DNA, my status is open to change. You could tell her something like that. She might find that angle tolerable. She just needs to know she created a discerning individual, not a damaged one.

DetlefK

(16,455 posts)
20. How can cookies exist if there are kids running around?
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:22 AM
Oct 2017

Kids eat cookies.
Therefore, if there are kids, there can be no cookies.

I have just disproven the existence of cookies.

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