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lindysalsagal

(22,380 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 05:44 PM Sep 2018

Best argument for keeping roe v wade, ever. Non-religious.

I'll mis-quote Tracy Harris from Atheist Experience:

If parents are not legally required to donate body parts to post-birth children, even to save their lives, then there sure isn't any reason why women should be forced to risk their lives carrying an unwanted fertilized egg to term, either.

And the famous "fetus doesn't have a say and never chose to be created" argument also runs aground, because the mother didn't, either.

So simple, but I've never heard it before.

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demigoddess

(6,675 posts)
1. years ago, I would have said that the lack of decent birth control.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 06:36 PM
Sep 2018

birth control has improved but now we have it being kept from women.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
3. My mother said if there would have been birth control when she was younger
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 07:33 PM
Sep 2018

most of us wouldn't be here. Sounds a little cruel but I understand her point, I wouldn't have wanted eight kids either.

mahina

(18,942 posts)
2. Also this: we already know what happens when abortion is illegal. Women die of illegal abortion.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 07:06 PM
Sep 2018

Ectopic pregnancy? Get ready to die.

Unviable fetus? Pretty much the same.

It’s so brutal and judgmental and horrible to women to sentance us to death in these cases, on top of wrong to make a woman have a child she does not or cannot have.

demigoddess

(6,675 posts)
7. yes, I remember a newspaper article in the 50s about a woman who wanted
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 05:30 PM
Sep 2018

an abortion just got on a plane and went to England and got one. Poor people can't do that!! All the rich women did.

ProfessorPlum

(11,365 posts)
4. exactly right - it's about bodily autonomy
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 08:03 PM
Sep 2018

no one is forced to donate a kidney, even if it could save someone's life.

I found that argument from the same place as you did, and found it just as clear and compelling.

demigoddess

(6,675 posts)
8. my reason is you shouldn't force someone to carry a baby for YOUR
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 07:31 PM
Nov 2018

religion. Not hers. Why doesn't the pregnant woman have a right to follow her religion? If God is all seeing, all knowing, He would have known the woman would have an abortion, so He would not have placed a soul in the zygote. I believe that religion used to say that God did not place the soul into the body until birth. So they are not only forcing their religion on others, but it is a new changed religion.

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