Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumHow could a political party that is so clearly, openly, objectively, evil be embraced by Christians?
NPR: After Record 2020 Turnout, State Republicans Weigh Making It Harder To VoteThe mind boggles.
onecaliberal
(35,676 posts)Him to crucifixion?
Towlie
(5,455 posts)This is from Asimov's Guide to the Bible:
Indeed, this point of view is made explicit in John where at this point of the story the following views of the priestly officials are quoted:
John 11:48. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and our nation.
John 11:49. And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them...
John 11:50. ... it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
This last remark is often quoted as an example of appalling cynicism, but of course it is a principle that is used constantly by all nations both before and after the time of Caiaphas.
Nor can the high-priestly view be considered as overly pessimistic, since forty years later it all turned out as they had feared. The Romans did come and take away their place and their nation. It might even be argued that only because the authorities took action against Jesus were forty years of additional life given the nation.
Jesus offered moral advice that was advanced for its time but he wanted no part of what was expected of the Messiah. However, his followers thrust that role upon him anyway and it seems he was reluctant to turn them away, which may be what cost him his life.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,887 posts)PJMcK
(22,849 posts)This is exactly why the Founding Fathers wanted to create a wall between the State and Religion.
procon
(15,805 posts)Many extremist Christian sects are just as evil as the politely parties they align themselves with. Their rabid religious beliefs are based on toxic lies, cruel and greed. They focus on revenge and retaliation to hurt people they object to. There is no interest in helping anyone or sharing the scriptures they purportedly believe in.
overleft
(393 posts)Chainfire
(17,757 posts)That very philosophy leaves the people open to all kinds of other crazy ideas. When applying logic and critical thinking skills is discouraged it leaves people wide open to manipulation by charismatic leaders. Anyone that is well versed in the bible can make any argument on either side of any subject, and claim to be the ultimate source of the truth.
To paraphrase an old bumper sticker, "Trump said it, I believe it, and that is the end of it."
msongs
(70,104 posts)safeinOhio
(33,959 posts)Bible Answers Live
Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other (Luke 18:1014).
That must be where the word "Republican" comes from, the Bible.
Irish_Dem
(56,107 posts)Including recent times.
Mr.Bill
(24,755 posts)They literally think aborting any fetus for any reason is murder. They think Democrats have supported the murder of millions of babies.
I like to propose this to some of them occasionally. If they give up their guns we will be okay with making abortion illegal. Haven't found any takers yet. So their guns are more important than saving the lives of millions of babies, to use their own terminology.