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Tobin S.

(10,420 posts)
1. The Pope is a mixed bag of backwards and enlightened
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jun 2015

He's terrible on women's issues and gay rights. He's good on economics and the environment (in regards to climate change). If people would just take a step back and look at his views objectively they'd see both good stuff and bad stuff as far as his politics go. He's just a regular Joe who happens to hold a very powerful position. Take away the religion and he's probably a mid level manager at some factory.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
2. Yes, he's right on climate change, but I'm not sure where else he's got the science right.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:26 PM
Jun 2015

He's anti-GMO, he's anti-birth control, he's anti-gay parents. Oh, maybe he is pro-vaccine. I don't know. He's an improvement over the last guy, but not by that much, despite all the hype.

Archae

(46,812 posts)
3. Don't forget he's a product of a system...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jun 2015

Began in the Dark Ages, set down arbitrary rules they pulled out of their ass, and covered for some of the most corrupt people imaginable.

Francis is an improvement over Pope Rat, but is still a product of a flawed system.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. A flawed system that is ridiculously difficult to change.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jul 2015

Because they've declared the whole sweater to be the perfect culmination of centuries of their best theologians' work, they don't DARE pick at the loose threads.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. He was once a bouncer!
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jul 2015

He washed people's feet! He hugged a deformed man! He drives a Renault! He's the most wonderfullest person EVAH!

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