2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf you blame Bernie or Bust, call it what it is
Blaming the victim. See how far that goes. (I hope you don't)
If the democratic party fails to get votes, the onus is on them and nobody else.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)I could be a PUMA, I was a straight Democratic ticket, vote in every election kind of voter.
Not so firmly planted anymore.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)It is reminiscent of Nixon's dirty tricks.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)What about the various and vociferous attacks on Sanders regarding everything from being white to not doing enough?
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)are attacks on the Party not on the candidates.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)It has gone on for months,
desmiller
(747 posts)blm
(113,854 posts)The BuyGoldandSilver Crowd.
hack89
(39,180 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)hack89
(39,180 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Wow...first pro-2nd-Am person here on my Ignore list. Shove your condescension, pal.
hack89
(39,180 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)LGBT rights, equal pay, healthcare and abortion rights are fucking toast if we let Republicans very into office.
"Victims"? Of what? Not getting their fucking way?
I am not "blaming" them for anything except being assholes.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Most Bernie or bust are of course people who wont be affected, which is why they are.
Like I dont get how the worst act of violence so far in a Trump rally is at the hands of a POC, what in the world is in his head?
shaking mine
artislife
(9,497 posts)how so much better it has been for us minorities (Latina) since 92. The party talks big, but it hasn't turned over the Patriot act, death by authorities hasn't gone down. Women's right over her body?
We look so much like them, they are not afraid of our politicians because we cave. Spineless!
DanTex
(20,709 posts)become president victims of anything?
H2O Man
(75,783 posts)the "Bernie or Bust" bit distracts from the important point made in the OP. It is 100% Hillary Clinton's responsibility to earn each and every vote that she gets. No person owes her a vote.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)That is the point.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)It's funny they don't blame the moderate Democrats who actually vote for Republicans.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Response to Rebkeh (Original post)
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pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)If you can't get others to vote for you, then it is YOU who have failed. Every loser does so because people won't vote for them. There is nothing new here. Except they already seem to be looking for people to blame when they lose.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Hasn't the DNC LOST over 900 seats since DWS has been in charge.
Well, we found out what she excels at . . . LOSING.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Governors, State HOuse/Senate seats, Local seats.
But they will blame it on us.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)if she isn't anointed. After all, It's her turn
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)..I will vote for the Democrat...PROUDLY if it is Bernie...HOLDING NOSE if it is Hillary
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)mmmm hmmmmm they sure do.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)We need the wood.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Sorry, we made need it to make handles for pitchforks.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Yeah I know they aren't reusable, but you can roast marshmallows after all the rioting is done.
Broward
(1,976 posts)If Hillary can't get out the vote, that's on her. The warning signs from the left are out there for all to see. So, those backing Hillary should know that this is a risk. Of course, it's their prerogative to cast a vote for Hillary in the primary, but it shouldn't come as a surprise if this affects the outcome in the general.
blm
(113,854 posts)And that makes the sincerity of their position highly doubtful.
I mean, go ahead and write-in your choice when you feel strongly. I think that is good and right, well, unless you're in a purple state like me. BUT, trying to make a high-profile movement of it smacks of political opportunism by people who are NOT REALLY on the same side
..but, they play it on the internet.
revbones
(3,660 posts)and blame him. If she is the nominee, the hypocrisy will be hilarious in blaming us for her getting fewer votes.