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Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:14 PM Mar 2016

If you blame Bernie or Bust, call it what it is

Blaming the victim. See how far that goes. (I hope you don't)

If the democratic party fails to get votes, the onus is on them and nobody else.

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If you blame Bernie or Bust, call it what it is (Original Post) Rebkeh Mar 2016 OP
I call Bernie or Bust what it is,PUMA.nt sufrommich Mar 2016 #1
How can you be a PUMA when many are indy voters? O_o pinebox Mar 2016 #8
Can you be a PUMA if you don't belong to the Party? artislife Mar 2016 #32
Who created Bernie or Bust? Downwinder Mar 2016 #2
In what way? haikugal Mar 2016 #4
Berniebros and Bernie or Bust Downwinder Mar 2016 #15
Berniebro's and all the rest were attacks on Bernie and his supporters. haikugal Mar 2016 #23
Remember "Obama Boys"? desmiller Mar 2016 #26
libertyblitzkrieg….longtime ties to Ron and Rand Paul. blm Mar 2016 #41
I call it an immature temper tantrum and I refuse to give a shit. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #3
Of course you do. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #5
Having had two kids go through the toddler phase, I know exactly what the proper response is. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #9
That's nice. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #12
If the shoe fits. You didn't have to try it on for size you know. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #17
And we recognize an authoritative stance when we see one. nt artislife Mar 2016 #33
+ 10000000000000000 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #27
Pppppppffffffffffffffffffffffffft - no it's privileged, arrogant, selfish, narcissistic and stupid PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #6
Thanks...What I dont get are those who will be hurt the worst who are taking this approach. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #28
Tell us besides Marriage Equality artislife Mar 2016 #34
The victim? LOL. How are people who are sitting out the election and helping Trump DanTex Mar 2016 #7
In my opinion, H2O Man Mar 2016 #10
Thank you, sir Rebkeh Mar 2016 #19
It's the usual "blame the Left" meme common here when the moderates' candidate loses. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #11
OFFS MohRokTah Mar 2016 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #14
I say it's what any LOSING candidate does. . . blame their opponent. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #16
They don't need to blame Bernie, they do a GREAT job at losing all by themselves pdsimdars Mar 2016 #18
1163-844 PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #20
Point pdsimdars Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #22
They also won the last 2 Presidential elections ... which is what we are talking about here. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #29
Yup. nt artislife Mar 2016 #35
Oh the Corporate Dems will definately Blame Bernie and his supporters Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #21
I will call it what it is: rank stupidity NT Adrahil Mar 2016 #24
I absoutly love Bernie, and hope he brings it out.. angstlessk Mar 2016 #25
H better bring her supporters to heel,they hurt her,what if she has the nom? wendylaroux Mar 2016 #30
Come down off your cross. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #31
LOL!! artislife Mar 2016 #36
I prefer torches Kalidurga Mar 2016 #40
Depressed turnout on the left could play a role in November. Broward Mar 2016 #37
My concern is that libertyblitzkrieg tracks back to longtime Rand Paul activists. blm Mar 2016 #38
Hillary supporters love to talk about how Bernie got fewer votes revbones Mar 2016 #39
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
32. Can you be a PUMA if you don't belong to the Party?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

I could be a PUMA, I was a straight Democratic ticket, vote in every election kind of voter.


Not so firmly planted anymore.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
4. In what way?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:26 PM
Mar 2016

What about the various and vociferous attacks on Sanders regarding everything from being white to not doing enough?

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
23. Berniebro's and all the rest were attacks on Bernie and his supporters.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

It has gone on for months,

blm

(113,854 posts)
41. libertyblitzkrieg….longtime ties to Ron and Rand Paul.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:21 PM
Mar 2016

The BuyGoldandSilver Crowd.

hack89

(39,180 posts)
9. Having had two kids go through the toddler phase, I know exactly what the proper response is. nt
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:30 PM
Mar 2016
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
12. That's nice.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

Wow...first pro-2nd-Am person here on my Ignore list. Shove your condescension, pal.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
6. Pppppppffffffffffffffffffffffffft - no it's privileged, arrogant, selfish, narcissistic and stupid
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:28 PM
Mar 2016

LGBT rights, equal pay, healthcare and abortion rights are fucking toast if we let Republicans very into office.

"Victims"? Of what? Not getting their fucking way?

I am not "blaming" them for anything except being assholes.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
28. Thanks...What I dont get are those who will be hurt the worst who are taking this approach.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:00 PM
Mar 2016

Most Bernie or bust are of course people who wont be affected, which is why they are.

Like I dont get how the worst act of violence so far in a Trump rally is at the hands of a POC, what in the world is in his head?

shaking mine

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
34. Tell us besides Marriage Equality
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:08 PM
Mar 2016

how so much better it has been for us minorities (Latina) since 92. The party talks big, but it hasn't turned over the Patriot act, death by authorities hasn't gone down. Women's right over her body?

We look so much like them, they are not afraid of our politicians because we cave. Spineless!

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
7. The victim? LOL. How are people who are sitting out the election and helping Trump
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:29 PM
Mar 2016

become president victims of anything?

H2O Man

(75,783 posts)
10. In my opinion,
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:32 PM
Mar 2016

the "Bernie or Bust" bit distracts from the important point made in the OP. It is 100% Hillary Clinton's responsibility to earn each and every vote that she gets. No person owes her a vote.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. It's the usual "blame the Left" meme common here when the moderates' candidate loses.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

It's funny they don't blame the moderate Democrats who actually vote for Republicans.

Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
16. I say it's what any LOSING candidate does. . . blame their opponent.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:37 PM
Mar 2016

If you can't get others to vote for you, then it is YOU who have failed. Every loser does so because people won't vote for them. There is nothing new here. Except they already seem to be looking for people to blame when they lose.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
18. They don't need to blame Bernie, they do a GREAT job at losing all by themselves
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:39 PM
Mar 2016

Hasn't the DNC LOST over 900 seats since DWS has been in charge.
Well, we found out what she excels at . . . LOSING.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
22. Point pdsimdars
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:00 PM
Mar 2016

Governors, State HOuse/Senate seats, Local seats.

But they will blame it on us.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
29. They also won the last 2 Presidential elections ... which is what we are talking about here.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:00 PM
Mar 2016

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
21. Oh the Corporate Dems will definately Blame Bernie and his supporters
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

if she isn't anointed. After all, It's her turn

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
25. I absoutly love Bernie, and hope he brings it out..
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:56 PM
Mar 2016

..I will vote for the Democrat...PROUDLY if it is Bernie...HOLDING NOSE if it is Hillary

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
30. H better bring her supporters to heel,they hurt her,what if she has the nom?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:02 PM
Mar 2016

mmmm hmmmmm they sure do.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
40. I prefer torches
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:19 PM
Mar 2016

Yeah I know they aren't reusable, but you can roast marshmallows after all the rioting is done.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
37. Depressed turnout on the left could play a role in November.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016

If Hillary can't get out the vote, that's on her. The warning signs from the left are out there for all to see. So, those backing Hillary should know that this is a risk. Of course, it's their prerogative to cast a vote for Hillary in the primary, but it shouldn't come as a surprise if this affects the outcome in the general.

blm

(113,854 posts)
38. My concern is that libertyblitzkrieg tracks back to longtime Rand Paul activists.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:16 PM
Mar 2016

And that makes the sincerity of their position highly doubtful.

I mean, go ahead and write-in your choice when you feel strongly. I think that is good and right, well, unless you're in a purple state like me. BUT, trying to make a high-profile movement of it smacks of political opportunism by people who are NOT REALLY on the same side…..but, they play it on the internet.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
39. Hillary supporters love to talk about how Bernie got fewer votes
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

and blame him. If she is the nominee, the hypocrisy will be hilarious in blaming us for her getting fewer votes.

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