Bernie or Hillary?

[nolawarlock]

Who would you like to see win the Democratic Nomination for President in 2016?

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	Hillary
	8 (13%)
	Bernie
	53 (87%)
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[onehandle]

1. No choice of an Independent!?

TYRANNY!

[nolawarlock]

2. LOL! nt

[nolawarlock]

3. My point is being made. Thank you. nt

[hack89]

4. What point? That DU doesn't reflect the real world?

we knew that already.

[nolawarlock]

5. No.

They definitely don't reflect the real world. You're right there.

However, in other threads, it was being argued by Sanders supporters that they aren't the majority here, responding to points that they have been harassing and alert-stalking the minority Hillary supporters. They're playing the persecuted minority so I put a poll in the field. Clearly they are not the minority.

[hack89]

6. Got it. You are certainly right. nt

[nolawarlock]

7. 76% Bernie so far ...

Though my saying this might mean they'll stop answering the poll so they can hold onto the persecuted minority meme.

[TheDormouse]

32. 83% now

[TheDormouse]

35. be careful, statements like that are frowned on by the forum

[nolawarlock]

37. What isn't frowned upon these days?

Oh wait. I know. Anything horrible said on the other side.

[jack_krass]

22. Obviosly much smarter

[hack89]

24. President Kucinich proved how connected to the real America DU can be. nt

[jack_krass]

26. I didn't say "more connected" I said "smarter". "ahead of the curve" or "trendsetting" works too

[hack89]

27. "Good at misreading political sentiment in America" is also pretty accurate. nt

[bunnies]

8. most Clinton people stopped voting in these types of polls months ago.

but whatever, have fun.

[nolawarlock]

9. uh huh

Spin it any way you have to.

[bunnies]

11. Its the truth. But you wouldnt that since you *just joined* right?

[nolawarlock]

12. I have lurked here for years.

I finally decided to post over #Popegate. And this continued implication that I'm somehow a sock is ridiculous. I'd rather the admins didn't say who I am, but they are certainly able to verify for you that I actually am a real person and not a sock.

[Hiraeth]

13. lol

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. Really? What about the very earliest ones, before all the hatred? nt

[bunnies]

33. The early ones were heavily participated in by everyone, IIRC.

But then notable Clinton supporters names started dropping off the poll list. Im not really sure why anyone (including me) votes in these anymore. The fact that there are more Bernie supporters here is pretty well known. I think?

[JackRiddler]

30. I wonder why.

[bunnies]

34. Didnt say I blame them.

[TheDormouse]

36. the sentiments of who's posting vary with time of day & day of the week, I think

if you'd started that poll early in the day (EST) on this past Sunday or Monday, I'd bet you'd have seen a different outcome

[bunnies]

38. Or Tuesday.

You're right.

[Lizzie Poppet]

41. About the same time they stopped thinking, apparently.

Except for the 1%'ers, of course...they understand how to vote in their own interest.

[workinclasszero]

10. Of course Sanders will win this online poll

The only place he will ever win the nomination and be elected president!

[nolawarlock]

14. *snicker*

Dr. Phillip Barbay: ...now, not withstanding Mr. Mellon's input. The next question for us is where to build our factory?

Thornton Melon: how 'bout fantasyland?

Source:Back to School (imdb)

[Dem2]

15. Another stupid binary poll

[nolawarlock]

17. Well, you missed the point of this one ...

... but then I could have been clearer. I just didn't want to be because I figured it would game the poll. At this point I don't care. The point is made.

Bernie supporters have branded themselves the persecuted minority here when they are not only the majority, but they have been incredibly vicious and uncivil to Hillary supporters both here and across social media. On this site, they have alert-stalked nearly anything and everything Hillary supporters post all while fomenting racist theories like "Stockholm Syndrome" and more.

This poll may not be scientific, but it certainly gives a sense of the majority here. Of course this is the only place Bernie folks are the majority. They certainly aren't the majority in the votes. *snicker*

[Dem2]

18. I see your point

I just would like to pick "both" as an answer. Both sides have been nasty at times, but with a huge majority, you're correct in what you're saying - it's just simple math.

[nolawarlock]

19. Oh I don't deny that at all.

Heck, I came back a first class bitch after a weekend on a bs hide (Bernie Sanders or that other term—take your pick). When you have to fight a bear, you'll sometimes grow claws. Yes, there's been some ugly on both sides but the difference is that the Bernie folks are the people in de facto power here and have all the power to enforce their discrimination while Hillary supporters have little power to defend themselves. Yes, the website host is for Hillary but he's clearly too busy to deal with the site on the day to day so we have this completely compromised jury system that automatically favors the majority. Bernie fans are openly bragging about gaming the jury system for their candidate which just goes to show how broken it is.

[Dem2]

23. I've seen the brokeness

(I love using weird words) 2X in the last 3 days a post was hidden because Bernie supporters "disliked" the content of the post. - extremely unfair - talk about 'gaming' a voting system.

[nolawarlock]

25. One of them tried to alert me for ...

Just posting "HAHAHAHAHAHA nt" in response to something. Even the Bernie supporters had to let that one slide through or they'd have lost all credibility. Too late. That ship has sailed. They are gleeful over how they have used their little web widget to harass us but no matter. They think this sort of thing will work with voters and super delegates and I suspect they will find out in the end that it does not. Their hypocritical threats and abuse towards super delegates across Facebook to side with the popular vote of their state have been so rancorous—well, except for Grijalva, since they keep applauding him for NOT going with the popular vote of Arizona—so I don't image they'll have much luck courting super delegates.

All they have left now are their threats that they'll sit out in November if we go with any candidate other than theirs. We saw how that worked for the PUMAs and that was when Obama was up against a Republican candidate in 2008 who has always had a lot of crossover appeal. Trump might have had that early on due to his fame on TV but he's quickly poured that down the drain. I would like to see the Green Party voters who masquerade as "longtime democrats" on here (and it always seems to be "forty years" and no other number) support Hillary but I'm not worried either way. She will win in November. Bank on it, pun intended. :-D

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. this site is much more like a caucus, much less like a primary

[nolawarlock]

21. *snickersnort* nt

[Unicorn]

28. I'm feeling a lot better about this site now.

I fled Huff Po last night because of the Hillary supporters, or should I say worshippers because so many give her blind support and a pass for everything liberals should be against.

Seeing all the Hillary supporters here was bothering me this morning.

But this poll shows incredible hope. Good site. I donated when I saw the Bernie posts.

[nolawarlock]

29. Yes, and it proves my point ...

that the Hillary supporters here are the minority, are the ones being harassed the most, and are the ones being alert-stalked.

[Unicorn]

31. I haven't been here 24 hours yet to know what's happening on this site.

On Huffington Post we had it on both sides, but the Hillary supporters are impossible there.
I'm hoping to take a long break from that site.

By your poll, you are clearly the minority so I'll agree that you guys would see more problems since being very out numbered.

[nolawarlock]

39. It's especially unfair to those of us who would actually support either Dem in November . n/t

[Unicorn]

40. Agreed.