If Bernie Sanders is not nominated, I will

[Algernon Moncrieff]

87 votes, 35 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Write in Bernie Sanders for President
	25 (29%)
	Vote Green/Other 3rd Party
	11 (13%)
	Not Vote
	2 (2%)
	Vote for Trump
	2 (2%)
	Vote for Clinton
	45 (52%)
	Move out of the US
	2 (2%)
	35 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[Betty Karlson]

1. Not sure yet: but I won't vote for Clinton or Trump.

"consider my options, and vote strategically according to the best option my conscience allows."

[senz]

27. This poll is in bad faith. Questionable people are making lists.

I don't know if you want to stay here. I don't even know if I want to stay here. But you are one of my favorites, Betty Karlson. There are peculiar entities scurrying about under foot busily taking names, screen shots, plotting sickly revenge scenarios, etc. So if you want to stick around, please edit your comment to throw in some vagueness. I don't like to lose good people.

[Shadowflash]

104. Meh.

Let them make their lists.

[Betty Karlson]

111. If DU goes into Stalin mode, I won't stay here. That is for sure.

If it does, there is always Jackpineradicals to go to.

If it doesn't, your favorite Betty will still be here. Especially so if Sanders gets the nomination after all.

[Silver_Witch]

102. Ditto Betty! Ditto.

[uppityperson]

2. Vote in anonymous online loyalty polls

[pmorlan1]

6. Oh Goody Another Loyalty Poll

A never ending stream of them here at DU.

[senz]

29. And nary a one of them well-intended.

[pmorlan1]

42. Don't I know it

Look at them sitting here just like spiders waiting for their prey.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

52. I don't speak for Skinner, but I wouldn't sweat it at this time

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910422

I don't know if he will clamp down after .CA or until after DC or after the convention. I have requested clarification.

[joshcryer]

88. He has stated we can handle waiting until DC:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910335

So that week between Clinton clinching and DC's vote will be somewhat painful, but it'll go by quickly.

(Sanders should bow out in the intrim. I'm guessing June 10th.)

[hrmjustin]

3. .

[Algernon Moncrieff]

4. Extra butter, please

[LonePirate]

5. Where, oh where, are the admins?

[senz]

30. Why do you want the admins?

[HubertHeaver]

7. I live in Texas, so it probably will not matter what I do.

I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

17. You have my sympathies

Although you have excellent Mexican food and great Margaritas -that should help.

[dlwickham]

8. can you add dancing in the streets as a choice

[Algernon Moncrieff]

22. The Motown version or Van Halen?

[dlwickham]

83. Bowie/Jagger

[Algernon Moncrieff]

84. I'm good with that

[senz]

32. Dance on the hopes of millions of struggling people.

Do a little high-five with the 1%. Woo hoo.

[beergood]

55. lol

i like your sense of humor.

btw i am a sanders supporter, but no matter who wins as long as we treat our fellow man with respect and have the ability laugh at ourselves, than this country will do just fine.

[Silver_Witch]

103. Agreed!

We have weathered far worse and partied during good times! We will all be okay! America is just learning!

[Matt_in_STL]

9. Finally, yet another loyalty poll.

We truly are morphing into the Republican Party.

[senz]

35. We morphed the early 1990s.

I like this Gertrude Stein quote: Before the flowers of friendship faded friendship faded.

[scscholar]

62. It's not like the Republicans at all!

It's asking rather than telling.

[nc4bo]

10. NOYFB and have a nice day. nt

[Algernon Moncrieff]

19. Well bless your heart!

[Silver_Witch]

105. +1000

[beachbumbob]

11. Since sanders won't be our nomination the choice is clearly

To vote for Hillary anything else allows a trump...

[thesquanderer]

12. People's decisions may be influenced by what state they are in...

...and whether they think there is any risk of Hillary losing it.

[Joe the Revelator]

13. i will be voting 3rd party and dem down ticket

I see no reason to hide that fact.

[closeupready]

14. I will ... let you know!!

[Cobalt Violet]

15. I will keep it as my private business what I'm going to do.

I really don't feel like I'm free to say.

[redwitch]

16. I'm looking in to it.

[Amaril]

18. Not vote..........

.......in any of these stupid polls!

[yolla331]

20. Yeah, sure. I'll vote for whoever I like.

My vote is none of your business, sir.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

21. Roger that! On a political website, we shouldn't discuss how we'll vote.

[yolla331]

25. My caucus is over, and I voted for Bernie

My vote in the GE is my decision, not anyone else's.

[JonLeibowitz]

26. Not when, as you very well know, one of your poll options is a bannable offense.

[Amaril]

31. Ding, Ding, Ding!!! (n/t)

[Algernon Moncrieff]

38. I'm not Skinner. I don't speak for him.

He's going to have to ban a lot of members of he holds a hard line on that.

[JonLeibowitz]

41. LOL, I know. That's kind of the point of this poll, isn't it?

[Algernon Moncrieff]

47. Nah. People think that

Many Bernie Sanders suporters have flat out said how they feel. The admins know. Skinner said in ATA that the crackdown will be after the voting ends (don't take my word - go look).

My opinion -many will vote for Hillary. However, the point is made that a voter in Wyoming could probably vote however they want and not change the outcome.

As frustrating as these discussions become, I am not in favor of a purge.

[senz]

37. How disingenuous.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

48. How so?

We pretty much all say what we think here.

[eggman67]

23. Vote for...

... the candidate of my choice, here in the great state of Pennsylvania.

[Dem2]

24. I'll go online and tell people "I'm not voting for the Democratic candidate"

But in private I will either

1) of course vote for them or

2) not tell anybody that I live in a state where my vote doesn't count, so I'm deceptively influencing those who live in states where it could be a life or death decision.

Most are the latter and don't realize that even though they can kick back on the recliner in their plush home, they are intentionally inflicting harm o those who are the most vulnerable in our society and don't want to be deported or tossed into a gulag.

[senz]

44. The ONLY candidate who cares about the most vulnerable is Bernie.

The other two candidates are 1% through and through.

[bkkyosemite]

28. .............

[fleabiscuit]

33. This should make it a lot easier to choose teams for Kos Play.

[tularetom]

34. Are you the voting police?

If Bernie Sanders is not nominated I don't expect my life to change all that much. I'll be 75 in September so the country should still be intact by the time I go. Although I don't give it too many more years. At least not as a democracy.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

43. No. I'm a frustrated political scientist

The country has endured worse, and I hope you are around for many more election cycles.

Unrelated question: how are water levels in the valley? (I'm guessing you live in Tulare)

[senz]

49. They wouldn't have to worry about water levels if not for global warming.

Only one candidate puts global warming as the top threat to the world.

He is opposed to fracking, of course.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

50. The Central Valley always worries about water

Drought is nothing new in California

[senz]

53. Oh THIS drought is quite new, thanks to cimate change.

The ground water levels sank so low last year that the ground itself sank.

Hillary's corporate backers are no friend to this earth.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

54. When one farm's an alkali desert, drought should not be a surprise

[senz]

58. I thought only Republicans defended climate change and blamed victims.

I was so naive.

"When one farm's an alkali desert, drought should not be a surprise"

[Algernon Moncrieff]

59. Drought in Central .CA predates climate change

It predates the Spanish

[Agschmid]

64. ...

You posted above about screenshots and such, and then basically you do one?

...

[senz]

67. :::

How many times have I asked you to leave me alone?

You'll be relieved to know that I do not do screen shots.

[Agschmid]

69. No, you just copy and paste.

[senz]

71. Ew! How could anyone "copy" and, and, and ... "paste?"

[Agschmid]

73. I'm not the one complaining about it up thread, you are.

[tularetom]

61. The reservoirs are not anywhere near full but they are releasing water from the dams

There was water in our creek this winter for the first time in several years. I'm in the foothills near Yosemite.

Actually I haven't lived in Tulare since I was 18 but it sounded like a nice alliterative screen name as opposed to where I live now.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

65. Sorry!

I should really read profiles.

My forebears are from Fresno, and I once lived in the Bay Area. I remember seeing photos of crazy stuff they were finding in Shaver Lake when the water was low. I hope we can stay in this La Nina pattern for a while longer.

[senz]

74. Look up "El Nino" and "La Nina."

[aikoaiko]

36. Follow my conscience when in the voting booth

FTW

[oldandhappy]

39. percentages look about as expected

[Algernon Moncrieff]

40. My thought as well

[geek tragedy]

110. especially if you allocate the "refuse to answer" to the "anyone but Clinton" categories nt

[SwampG8r]

45. Vote down ticket dems.only

Put that on your little list

[TheKentuckian]

46. Vote for Yarmouth and against Paul.

[Andy823]

51. Well at least

We can see what some of the trolls will be doing. As if we didn't already know.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

56. My understanding is that trolls are fixated with infrastructure

...Given all the time they spend under bridges.

[senz]

57. If Bernie Sanders is not nominated, I will

perhaps welcome a Biden/Warren or Warren/Biden substitute from the DNC.

And spend the rest of my life working for the peaceful political revolution that Bernie has started - along with millions of other Americans and struggling human beings around the world -- who are thoroughly fed up with the corporate-supported 1% and will do everything they can to destroy it.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

60. If there were a sub, I'd guess Biden/Franken

Warren's seat would be filled by a Republican.

[B Calm]

63. I'm not there yet on who I will support IF Bernie loses. As long as Bernie is still in the race, I

fully support him!

[senz]

66. Precisely. Now is the time to fight hard. Hill has NOT won.

Her supporters know that. She does not have the numbers. They live in fear of a streak of fairness in a contested convention or a streak of justice from the Department of Justice.

They live in fear of truth and justice. I have a feeling they always will.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

70. Keep doing what you want, but Hillary supporters are not living in fear

I'm confident the convention will be just fine, and run under the same rules as last time., and I'm pretty confident that Hillary Clinton will be the presumtive nominee on 6/8. I think if an indictment were coming, it would have come already.

[Fumesucker]

91. There will be no indictment until after Bernie drops out

Parachuting Biden into the candidacy is going to be tricky enough without having someone still on the trail who has quite a few Democratic votes already.

And we all know that the establishment will never, ever make Sanders the de facto nominee which is what an indictment would do before he drops out of the race.

[vkkv]

68. Wow.. 32% here would -without a fight- let Trump pick the next batch of SCOTUS Justices.. sick! NT

[Algernon Moncrieff]

72. Probably higher. The percentages don't include those not wishing to select an option

[senz]

76. Since Hill loses to Trump, it's a far higher percentage.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

77. According to FOX. You can always trust them.

[senz]

78. According to every major poll in recent weeks.

Look that up while you're looking up El Nino and La Nina.

[Blue_In_AK]

75. None of your business,

but I can safely say that Hillary Clinton will NEVER win in Alaska (we haven't voted for a Democratic presidential nominee since 1964 + Bernie won the caucus here by 82-18) and we're only three electoral votes anyway. I love living in Alaska because I can always vote my conscience when it comes to presidents. State offices and US Senate/House are the only elections where my vote might make a difference.

[MuseRider]

79. Thank you.

I am getting tired of saying that myself. Who I vote for will be between me and myself.

I don't understand having to or wanting to tell anyone the answer to that question.

[wilsonbooks]

80. Weigh my options.

[99Forever]

81. None of your gawddamn business.

Quit asking.

[JimDandy]

82. Hilarious, Clinton supporters freeped the poll. How insecure of them.

[B Calm]

90. I know, I clicked show usernames and almost died laughing.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

86. I don't speak for Skinner, but I don't think mass expulsion is coming

Whatever happens won't happen (it would seem) until after voting ends.

I don't think the poll tells anyone anything a reading of the Sanders group wouldn't tell you.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

100. It's not like most of us make our voting intentions a secret around here

It's a political website.

Let me counter: If Skinner comes out after DC, and says anyone stating that they are not voting for Hillary is getting thrown off DU, why would those insisting they are not voting for Hillary want to stay?

[Shadowflash]

106. It won't matter

I HRC gets the nom, this place is going to be too insufferable to stick around, anyway.

[joshcryer]

87. For people who expect courage in politicians...

...there sure is a lot of cowardice displayed in not voting on a largely meaningless online poll.

[David__77]

108. Is it cowardice?

What about if someone simply doesn't know or has not made a decision between the options given in the poll?

[joshcryer]

112. With an almost 20% pass rate?

It's obviously a protest vote because people are afraid to vote for a specific option, the thread is littered with posts afraid of the ramifications. Skinner isn't banning people against Clinton, he's going to ban people who are actively against Clinton. You can still be anti-Clinton. Just don't post about it after the primaries start. Heck knows that DU is a nexus if anti-Obama sentiment on the internet, yet people are still active here.

[ibegurpard]

89. other

Decide what to do when it's time to vote in the general election

[PowerToThePeople]

92. #NeverHillary

As of this time

Vote for Clinton, 106
Not 'vote clinton', 97.

[bill]

93. #votebluenomatterwho

[Brickbat]

94. I'm much more interested in what Sanders supporters will do after the election.

Are they going to work for change, or pout?

[PragmaticLiberal]

95. As of right now the plan is to write in Martin O'Malley.

Of course I'll do the same if Mrs. Clinton is the nominee.

[fleabiscuit]

96. K&R!

[fleabiscuit]

97. Kick for exposure.

[JCanete]

99. I feel like if I click "vote for Trump" I could be the seed of a whole new meme

about how DU Bernie supporters are racist closet Trump supporters ... just look at the anecdotal evidence that proves it! Wait, that's not a new meme is it?

[BainsBane]

101. There are really only two responses

1) vote for Hillary
2) vote for or otherwise enable Trump to become president.

Those three folks who say they'll leave the country better start packing. Bernie has already lost.

[David__77]

107. Well, here's what I won't do...

...I won't advocate against voting for the Democratic presidential nominee or advocate for voting for someone other than the Democratic presidential nominee on this site.

That would be contrary to my understanding of the intention of the site and agreements of its users.

I haven't been super-engaged with this presidential election thus far. I'm going to vote for Sanders in the California primary. I have concern that Clinton would implement a foreign policy I would find terrible.

[Orsino]

109. ...vote against Chief Justice Hulk Hogan and Secretary of State Sarah Palin. n/t