Greg Palast: GOP Stole The Election

[Dirty Socialist]

According to investigative reporter Greg Palst, the GOP stole the election by "cross checking" voters and other forms of voter suppression:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/investigative_reporter_greg_palast_gop_stole_2016_election_20161116

[bpositive]

1. Maybe but

We have seen this movie before and we know how it ends

[kenfrequed]

2. Yup

Completely agree. Unfortunately the Mainstream media is still complaining about third parties or trying to normalize racism.


Why is it that we never learn?

[cilla4progress]

3. I have been frenetically posting this and calling

DOJ, etc. for a week. Arghhhh! Can anything be done to get this some traction??

I think Time Mag wrote a piece today about it? Still, nothing. Why don't Obama, Clinton, Schumer, Sanders, Warren take this up?

[mythology]

4. The problem with the analysis is it's based on the assumption that all of those people would

have voted.

It's hard to argue that given there was effectively no change in the percentage of African American or Latino voters as a percentage of the electorate. It's not that they didn't turn out, it's that a slightly higher number of them voted for Trump and a much higher number of whites (mostly men) voted for Trump. Palast has his conclusion in mind and then creates a story around it. But there's no evidence based on a decline in turnout among minority groups as a percentage of the electorate from 2008 or 2012. His "evidence" is based on wanting to believe they would have turned out, but given those groups turned out in roughly the same percentages as 2008 and 2012, it's a hard argument to make that the law change in 2013 had such a major impact.

It's just as inaccurate as people complaining the polls were massively wrong. The national polls were off by about 2 points, which was the difference between winning and losing. Switching 1 in 100 voters would have almost exactly flipped the electoral college (it would have been 307 Clinton to to 231 Trump instead of 232 Clinton to 306 Trump).

Look at the evidence and then find the conclusions.

The gutting of the Civil Rights Act should be opposed, but on principle that people should be allowed to vote.

[srobertss]

5. does the voter turnout data include provisional votes?

If it does, then that could account for the numbers of minority voters looking like they did in past elections. But most of those provisional ballots won't be counted. Even the exit polls wouldn't reflect whether someone had cast a provisional vote.