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If you knowingly vote for someone who is a racist, sexist, and xenophobic, that means (Original Post) still_one Dec 2016 OP
Most of the trump voters don't have a problem with those views liberal N proud Dec 2016 #1
Yep mcar Dec 2016 #2
What if I vote for someone who is opposed to marriage equality? QC Dec 2016 #3
First of all who was that person running against? Yes, sometimes you have to still_one Dec 2016 #5
Nailed it... SidDithers Dec 2016 #4
Or that for you, other factors outweighed those things. Orsino Dec 2016 #6
there's also a hazard to continously throwing around those words NRQ891 Dec 2016 #7

QC

(26,371 posts)
3. What if I vote for someone who is opposed to marriage equality?
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 09:43 AM
Dec 2016

I voted for such a candidate in 2008 and 2012. I think most of us here did.

still_one

(96,572 posts)
5. First of all who was that person running against? Yes, sometimes you have to
Reply to QC (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 10:57 AM
Dec 2016

make choices who would be more open to change, and civil rights.

but of course that wasn't an issue with this election was it?

However, trump made racism, sexism, and xenophobia an issue, and he
made no bones about his racist, sexist, and xenophobic views, so yes, those who were aware of those views who voted for trump did NOT have a problem with those views.

As for your point regarding President Obama, it wasn't as clear as you would like to portray. His position on that subject changed back and forth through the years, between civil unions and full marriage rights, but one thing he was always consistent on, civil rights for gay couples, that included hospital visitation, transfer of property and Social Security benefits.

"In 1996, as he ran for Illinois state Senate, Chicago’s Outlines gay newspaper asked candidates to fill out a questionnaire. Tracy Baim, the co-founder and publisher of Outlines, dug up a copy of the questionnaire in 2009, cataloging the president-elect’s shift.

He had written on the 1996 questionnaire, "I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/11/barack-obama/president-barack-obamas-shift-gay-marriage/

Racism, sexism, and xenophobia was an issue this election, because one of the candidates ran on that, so those who voted for that candidate obviously had no problem with it. There was no middle ground, and his team appointments reinforce that view.

but it isn't only that, he made it clear who he would appoint to the Supreme Court, and that itself confirmed his views on civil rights, deregulation, and women's rights.

People who voted for trump knew exactly where he stood, and they had no problem with it

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
6. Or that for you, other factors outweighed those things.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:17 PM
Dec 2016

The one for-sure Trump voter I know told me earlier this year that she didn't like Trump or Clinton. I'm not in a particularly forgiving mood, but there were more than three possible issues that mattered to voters.

NRQ891

(217 posts)
7. there's also a hazard to continously throwing around those words
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:40 PM
Dec 2016

in 1950, having Senator Joe McCarthy call you a 'Communist', a 'communist sympathizer', a 'fellow traveler', or 'soft on communism', meant that your career was over

by 1954, having him call you that meant that you disagreed with anything he ever said or did, ever. Those words were considered 'Bully Boilerplate'

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