2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe definitive reason why Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 presidential election
52% of White women voted for Trump.
zstat
(56 posts)Hilary Clinton could not loose to a rigged election. That is just impossible. It is logically impossible for her to loose when it was manipulated regardless of who voted. No matter what she did, it was a no-win situation weeks before the election. We can torture ourselves over the "reasons" but you have to laugh at our stupidity for trying the find the single best reason for trumph wining. None of the reasons have any credibility if the loss was a forgone conclusion. The only question remaining on election day was, "Republican machine: how much and in what counties/states do we manipulate the voting counting to elect our man?"
Lets stop this insane search for "the reason" or "reasons" Hilary Clinton lost.
BainsBane
(54,796 posts)So your point isn't at all definitive. Instead, it's a transparent effort to blame women.
Yavin4
(36,406 posts)White women had a historic opportunity to elect a woman and passed. Second, Romney was not a clear, ugly misogynist like Trump. Third, a majority on the SCOTUS wasn't literally hanging in the balance.
Finally, no, I'm not blaming women. I'm blaming White women for Trump's victory.
BainsBane
(54,796 posts)The numbers don't bear out your claim that it is definitive at all. As usual, the GOP electorate is comprised overwhelmingly of white men. I continue to believe we are underestimating the impact of voter suppression on communities of color.
Yavin4
(36,406 posts)White women did not. They did not vote for someone who best represented their values and interests as a woman. If they had, she would be president.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Cool way to move those goalposts, regardless of your desire to blame someone.
Yavin4
(36,406 posts)But that's not going to get you any where.
Loge23
(3,922 posts)With a significant popular vote advantage and a relatively slim electoral deficit overall, it remains to this day very questionable whether who actually "won".
But if there was a reason, it was because trump was able to graffiti paint a former first lady, Senator, and Secretary of State as a "crooked" criminal.
Outraged and outrageous is not quite enough to describe my feelings and this dastardly flim-flam of a campaign for and by trump.
NRQ891
(217 posts)just be happy, and await her inaugeration
NewJeffCT
(56,840 posts)but, I am pretty sure that something went on in several swing states that swung the election to Trump. (Not just WI, MI and PA - but, NC, FL, VA and a few others. Yes, I know Clinton won VA, but it was closer than polling indicated.)
That said, I doubt anything will be able to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt and I doubt anything will come of it.
But, I also think voter suppression played an even bigger role in WI, PA, FL and NC.
uponit7771
(91,770 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)We've been around much too long to fall for magic-bullet fallacies.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)about pissed off Bernie Bros?
Nonwhites who didn't vote for Hillary?
Anyone who didn't vote or voted for Stein or Bugs Bunny?