I'm cleaning out ancient computer files, and finding all my stuff on Black Box Voting

[Hekate]

From 2004 and later. It is sick that we are still going around and around on this topic.

I was hoping to at least post the many DU links in case anyone is interested in the still-relevant history, but none of them will work when I copy/paste them.

Off to the Trash they go, as I don't intend to archive them forever.....

[ret5hd]

1. Bev Harris was a scammer and in it for herself only.

[Hekate]

2. I think we are all aware of that. Do you think the problem of rigged & hacked voting machines...

...is bogus as well? Do you think the problem has gone away? Was there no other information in those discussions; were there not numerous links to other sources?

So -- no need for any further discussion because the original messenger deserved to get shot?

[MuseRider]

3. There was a lot going on then.

Looking up names, some who were important and some never found. All of the research we did, I did some but not nearly as much as many. Then finding out about Bev and losing Andy in such a horrible way.

It is too bad the links don't work. It would be good to see what all we did back then.

[Hekate]

5. For those who are able to access the DU Archives, I'm sure it's still available for research

I read the posts for a long time with a very skeptical eye, as I am not big on conspiracy theories (or I didn't used to be). Finally a phrase struck me forcibly: "secret source code." My husband was a systems analyst, and secret source code was the bane of his existence in consulting. Then one night there was a huge thread, and that's the one I asked him to read. "Is this possible?" And he said it was.

Live Free or Diebold. How many of our newer members even know what that means and why? The problem is still with us -- only the names have changed. That's my point.

[MuseRider]

6. Live Free or Diebold

YES!

It will continue as long as we let it.

[unc70]

4. Mine are archived "forever"

We did some very good work in NC after 2004. And at DU. It costs next to nothing to archive everything (and I mean everything)(. One little "stick" will probably hold everything from 2004. I have most of the Internet archived from some of those years. And lots of things about election system, voting machines, political polling, and so much more. I suggest you just archive it for now, just in case. Offline one some media not connected to the Internet. My archives have not been connected to any Internet accessible system in over 10 years.

[Hekate]

7. I'm really glad you have done that.In my case, I've finally got a new computer to replace the 10 y.o

...Mac. Over the past 30 years, I've only had a few computers, all from Apple. My track record of saving old media isn't so great -- the floppy disks are history, for one thing. For another, it's my husband who transferred all my old files the last time because I was so attached to them. That included all my PhD dissertation files, drafts, and final copy. When I finally went back to look at them, a lot of them were black and even more of them had lost all their formatting. Thank God I have the dissertation in several hard-copy formats, including one bound book.

There's so much I haven't even looked at in years, and I figured that rather than dragging it all with me like the chains on Marley's Ghost, I'd clean house a bit.

[unc70]

8. Use the Timemachine app on Mac

The easiest way to back everything up on the Mac is to use the TimeMachine application that comes with the MacOS. It will keep everything backed up automatically so that you can easily go back in time and see your directories and files and earlier times. Get a 2TB or 4TB external hard drive, plug it into your Mac and follow the directions.

It is not perfect, but it is really good. At some time, but a second external drive and put the first one somewhere safe. Those disk drives are roughly $60-$100 each and well worth it. The only thing cheaper is to backup is to backup to DVD or maybe CD.

If you have any questions, ask here or send me an email.

BTW the machines I used when accessing DU and the rest of the Net are themselves in storage and have not been connected to the Net in a decade. My oldest systems and archives are over 40 yo. I still have my archives from the early days of USENET when we were fighting the original spam coming in alt.religion.scientology.

[Hekate]

9. Very good advice, unc70. Thanks much and I'll keep it in mind.