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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUpdate to today on Hamilton Electors actions
Lots of links to follow embedded in the article:Update to today on Hamilton Electors actions
By RWN Dec 05, 2016 · 4:18 PM PST
I dont have much time because I have get back on the phone talking to fellow Republican Electors but I thought best to update you all on the mission.
First thing tomorrow in Colorado (and subsequently other states this week) three of us are going file in Federal District Court a lawsuit seeking relief from C.R.S. § 1-4-304(5), which is the CO State Statutes that binds us to voting for the winner of the popular vote in Colorado. Link
The lawyers and group have formed a 527 to raise money for such an effort, here is another Link and here.
Hon. Polly Baca is our lead, https://www.facebook.com/notes/hamilton-defenders/elector-polly-baca-calls-on-colleagues-to-vote-against-trump/1764274390502583
Today a Republican Elector came out in the New York Times, I have had a number of personal conversations with him and there is a significant number of others who remain private.
In these conversations with fellow National Electors we have started to come to a consensus that John Kasich appears to be the emerging alternative candidate. Link . That article also introduced the back channel discussions with the Clinton campaign regarding Democratic Electors en masse voting faithless for a Republican alternative.
Colorado Independent summarizes the Colorado delegation, Link
The New Yorker Magazine did a nice piece on the Hamilton Electors, link.
Newsweek published a national op-ed supporting our movement. Link .................
By RWN Dec 05, 2016 · 4:18 PM PST
I dont have much time because I have get back on the phone talking to fellow Republican Electors but I thought best to update you all on the mission.
First thing tomorrow in Colorado (and subsequently other states this week) three of us are going file in Federal District Court a lawsuit seeking relief from C.R.S. § 1-4-304(5), which is the CO State Statutes that binds us to voting for the winner of the popular vote in Colorado. Link
The lawyers and group have formed a 527 to raise money for such an effort, here is another Link and here.
Hon. Polly Baca is our lead, https://www.facebook.com/notes/hamilton-defenders/elector-polly-baca-calls-on-colleagues-to-vote-against-trump/1764274390502583
Today a Republican Elector came out in the New York Times, I have had a number of personal conversations with him and there is a significant number of others who remain private.
In these conversations with fellow National Electors we have started to come to a consensus that John Kasich appears to be the emerging alternative candidate. Link . That article also introduced the back channel discussions with the Clinton campaign regarding Democratic Electors en masse voting faithless for a Republican alternative.
Colorado Independent summarizes the Colorado delegation, Link
The New Yorker Magazine did a nice piece on the Hamilton Electors, link.
Newsweek published a national op-ed supporting our movement. Link .................
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Update to today on Hamilton Electors actions (Original Post)
Coyotl
Dec 2016
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Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)1. I think they are taking away electors from HRC? BoB?
Not good!
roamer65
(37,168 posts)2. Take this one to House of Reps, baby!
1824 redux. It would be historical.
I don't like Kasich, but at least he is sane. That may be what we have to settle for...
Fiendish Thingy
(18,545 posts)4. Agreed
If recounts don't flip enough EV's to HRC, then the future of the country is in the hands of the Hamilton electors.
LisaL
(46,608 posts)5. What are you talking about? They are democratic electors.
Them voting for Kasich isn't going to get him elected.
jg10003
(1,029 posts)7. The idea is that if some Clinton electors defect it will be easier for Trump electors to do the same
by making Kasich look like a conses candidate.
jg10003
(1,029 posts)8. Robert Reich on John Kasich
The country, and the world, will definitely survive 4 years of President Kasich. The same cannot be said of Trump.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/robert-reich-kasich-best-of-a-bad-lot/article/996264
"Of all Republican hopefuls, John Kasich, who announced his bid yesterday, is the best of a bad lot. Kasich has as much experience and an equal or better record than the other governors running, and more experience in government than the rest of the field combined. During his governorship he moved Ohio from 48th in job creation to eighth (second in the Midwest), halved unemployment to 5.2 percent and increased income by 9.8 percent. Poverty fell three times faster than the national rate, helped by a Kasich initiative to adopt a version of the earned income tax credit, which makes work worthwhile for fast-food employees and hotel maids," Reich writes in a Facebook post.
"I dealt with Kasich when he was a congressman from Ohio and headed the Budget Committee, and found him to be honest, forthright, and willing to listen and change his mind if the arguments were against him. Although a social conservative, against abortion and for the death penalty, Kasich has accused his party of waging a war on the poor, and has spoken up for immigrants. He has argued against repeal of the Affordable Care Act, and has taken Medicaid expansion dollars. According to Bloomberg, when Randy Kendrick, a major contributor and wife of the owner of the Arizona Diamondbacks, objected to Kasich's moral defense of aid to the poor, Kasich fired back, "I don't know about you, lady, but when I get to the pearly gates, I'm going to have an answer for what I've done for the poor." He hasn't been invited to a Koch brothers meet-and-greet since.
"I dealt with Kasich when he was a congressman from Ohio and headed the Budget Committee, and found him to be honest, forthright, and willing to listen and change his mind if the arguments were against him. Although a social conservative, against abortion and for the death penalty, Kasich has accused his party of waging a war on the poor, and has spoken up for immigrants. He has argued against repeal of the Affordable Care Act, and has taken Medicaid expansion dollars. According to Bloomberg, when Randy Kendrick, a major contributor and wife of the owner of the Arizona Diamondbacks, objected to Kasich's moral defense of aid to the poor, Kasich fired back, "I don't know about you, lady, but when I get to the pearly gates, I'm going to have an answer for what I've done for the poor." He hasn't been invited to a Koch brothers meet-and-greet since.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)3. They are BoB!!
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)6. This is hands down the dumbest protest this election.
So now Hillary Clinton goes down in history as having a record number of faithless electors abandoning her.