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flamingdem

(39,926 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:30 PM Dec 2016

Hillary Clinton vs Donald Trump: Pennsylvania now just 0.22% away from statewide recount

http://www.palmerreport.com/news/hillary-clinton-vs-donald-trump-pennsylvania-now-within-0-23-statewide-recount/420/

Even as the state of Pennsylvania fights against the idea of performing a statewide recount of the votes in the 2016 presidential election, and third party candidate Jill Stein sues in federal court to try to convince a judge to force it to happen, another trend is developing. Donald Trump had originally won the state by well over one percent of the vote. But as various counties and precincts have cleaned up their vote totals over the past month, his lead has plummeted – and is now a fairly small number of votes away from triggering an automatic recount which wouldn’t need a judge’s mandate.

Pennsylvania state law currently states that if the winning margin in the election is 0.5% or less, a statewide recount must take place. But in the past month Trump’s lead in the state has gone from initially being pegged at 70,638 in late November, then falling all the way to 46,938 votes, and now standing at a mere 44,307 votes (follow the blue bold-text source links for vote total verification). That’s out of a total of 6,163,006 presidential votes cast in Pennsylvania meaning Trump now leads by just 0.72%.
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jonno99

(2,620 posts)
1. Does anyone know if there are still counties/precincts who have yet to report their
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:36 PM
Dec 2016

absentee or provisional ballots?

Amishman

(5,816 posts)
2. Can't find the article but I believe I read that there are only 15 unresolved provisional ballots
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:33 PM
Dec 2016

It seems like the final numbers are now in.

iluvtennis

(20,868 posts)
3. Like! If the totals in the recounts are revised by another 13,400 votes for HRC...
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 04:43 PM
Dec 2016

...a statewide recount is automatically done - - no Jill Stein lawsuit needed to force the issue. The only county currently being recounted is the one where Philly is and just with that county Don the Con's margin went from 1.x% to 0.7%. Another 0.2% reduction (13,400 votes) and there will be statewide recount. There's still hope here.

INdemo

(7,020 posts)
4. Why in the hell doesnt the Clinton campaign jump in here and be a part
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 04:47 PM
Dec 2016

of challenging the vote totals?

Ford_Prefect

(8,202 posts)
5. Because too many of them are Establishment Dems and believe the system works in its way.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 04:59 PM
Dec 2016

They'd sooner believe in the tooth fairy than that something is tilted in the system, or appear in public having said it was. They are the same ones that told Gore to stand down in 2000.

They are their own kind of true believers and wouldn't see actual cheating if it happened in front of them under stage lighting and on camera with narration. They'd sooner think the Russians hacked in from the outside than that the GOP paid American companies to do it.

They are the same fools that approved Justice Roberts without even thinking twice.

orleans

(34,984 posts)
6. ...
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 05:09 PM
Dec 2016

because there is no evidence of vote tampering

because she conceded and doesn't want to appear to be a "flip-flopper"

because the media has already announced trump the winner

because she doesn't want to appear to be a sore loser

because she doesn't want to appear to be too anxious

because she knows it won't change the outcome of the election


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these are some of the stupid reasons i have come upon this past month of tremendous shock, sadness, and disappointment. let me also add that i think she should have been *leading* this recount and i do not agree with what i posted above--although i think her "team" might agree with most of it.

iluvtennis

(20,868 posts)
7. Well said. I think HRC not being part of it has to do with the accepting election results..
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 05:22 PM
Dec 2016

..hubbub. HRC tore down Trump on that pretty badly when he said he would have to wait and see if he would accept the results. But that had to do his "rigged" election claims. This recount has to do with vote counting inaccuracies. Team Hillary needs to come out of the closet on this,.

uponit7771

(91,770 posts)
11. Wait, how can 40,000 votes got to CLINTON alone !!?! THAT ITSELF should trigger a fuckin recount !!!
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:31 AM
Dec 2016

.... because the recount numbers shouldn't be that disparate !!!

Someone doesn't GAIN that main votes unless there's something fucked up !!!

No, fuck this... she gets close then fuck the 19th and if I were Clinton I'd raise all kinds of hell

Fuck "uniting" behind Bad Hair Fuck Mouth, this is about this country

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,362 posts)
12. 26,000 not 40,000
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:14 AM
Dec 2016

and the change has nothing to do with the recount, it has to do with provisional and absentee ballots that were counted after election night and prior to certification.

Amishman

(5,816 posts)
13. :facepalm: they weren't all clinton votes. The number tossed around is the margin
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:00 AM
Dec 2016

Numbers from 11/22 (the oldest I could find from a reliable source)
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/pennsylvania/

Orange Idiot: 2,912,941
Hillary Clinton: 2,844,705

Final results:
http://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/ENR_NEW

Tangerine Turd: 2,970,764
Hillary Clinton: 2,926,457

Both numbers went up due to absentee and provisional ballots, but Hillary went up more.

Once again, there is no crazy conspiracy here.

uponit7771

(91,770 posts)
14. sigh .... another LPC member with a condescending remark about the recount... you guys workin ...
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:18 AM
Dec 2016

... overtime on the "there's no CT crap" hunh?

Yes there is, there's not a person I know that voted for Fuck Mouth Trump that doesn't think there's something wrong with this election IE there's not a lot of screams from the avg citizen who voted for Fuck Mouth regarding the recount.

My point still stands factually; there's a lot of provisional votes going to HRC... relative to Fuck Mouth... that in and of itself is anomalous and there are a ton of this happening in the voter suppression states.



Look, there's enough evidence for a rational person to think there's something DEFINITELY fucked up about this election ... giving the facts that even a FUD wont dispute why push there's no CT here meme?


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