2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMichigan recount is NOT dead: Jill Stein asks Michigan Supreme Court to resume it (Palmer Report)
The real story tonight: a federal judge ruled that he didnt have the authority to override the 3-1 decision by the decision by the Michigan Board of Canvassers to shut down the recount. However, this federal court move is not a ruling against Jill Stein, but rather a punt. As such, shes announced that shell now shift her court battle to the Michigan Supreme Court. This information is readily available in a statement from Stein, yet its garnered anywhere from faint brief mention in the fine print to no mention at all in the reports coming out from major news outlets.
https://www.palmerreport.com/news/michigan-recount-is-not-dead-jill-stein-is-now-asking-michigan-supreme-court-to-resume-it/430/
FBaggins
(27,722 posts)No he didn't. He didn't even talk about it except to cite their original statutory 2-day wait. Instead, he references state courts' ability to interpret state law.
However, this federal court move is not a ruling against Jill Stein, but rather a punt.
Nope. He ruled directly against a number of her claims.
"Nor have Plaintiffs shown an entitlement to a recount that derives from a source other than the recount procedures established by the Michigan Legislature. "
"There is no case law recognizing an independent federal right to a recount that either this Court or the parties have come across, in the absence of actual deprivation of voting rights"
"... invoking a courts aid to remedy that problem in the manner Plaintiffs have chosen... has never been endorsed by any court"
"In tandem with their new claims, Plaintiffs response to the motions to dissolve argues that the TRO should be preserved on either of two alternative bases: (i) that the Michigan Court of Appeals ruling on the aggrieved party issue represents a distorted interpretation of the text of Mich. Comp. Laws § 168.879, see Pls. Resp. at 3-4; and (ii) that Plaintiffs have a federal constitutional right to a recount independent of the state statutory scheme providing for a recount, see id. at 10. The Court finds neither argument persuasive."
Palmer also mistakenly claims that the recount isn't dead because Stein will still appeal to the state and federal Supreme Courts. The problem there is that there's almost no chance that either will help her. It can't get to the USSC without first going back through the federal appellate court that just ruled yesterday that the state courts get to interpret state law... and the state Supreme Court is 5-2 Republican. I'm not sure that they'll even take the case.
It would be more accurate reporting to say that the recount is dead and Stein is praying for a miracle to resuscitate it.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)FBaggins
(27,722 posts)To the extent they're hand-counting paper ballots for example.
But my point here was just to point out the fake news shilling to draw out sucker donations.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)FBaggins
(27,722 posts)We might not be able to tell who hacked it, but we would definitely be able to show that it had been hacked.
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)uponit7771
(91,770 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)So glad that Stein is being so relentless on this!