2016 Postmortem
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Sanders campaign manager: Don't buy David Brock's blame game for Clinton lossJeff Weaver
The Hill
Novembers result highlights the central challenge that the Democratic Party faces building a party that represents the interests and aspirations of middle and working class Americans of all races. When elements of the party spend decades supporting job destroying trade deals and cozying up to Wall Street and other corporate interests, it only makes sense that working people and young peoples confidence in the party as a whole has been shaken, if not shattered.
And this is not limited to white voters. Turnout in places like Detroit and Milwaukee reveal that the partys problems cross racial lines.
Rather than face the very real challenge of remedying this situation, some have taken to blaming pollsters and data analysts for Hillary Clintons loss. After all, its much easier to bash those who didnt see the wheels coming off the train rather than asking why the wheels were coming off in the first place.
In the next few months, Bernie Sanders will go back to being just another voice in the Senate, and Hillary Clinton will most likely (at least according to Terry McAuliffe) retire from politics, but this schism will remain.
Sander's message drew more millennial votes than the Clinton and Trump campaigns combined in the primary season, and this generation just recently displaced the baby boomers as the largest population. It's not hard to figure out where we need to go in the future.
hueymahl
(2,647 posts)Uncomfortable truth for many.
sfwriter
(3,032 posts)His latest book appears aimed at growing the left and populist groups he energized during the election.
portlander23
(2,078 posts)But I'm not sure it will be televised.
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)He lost the primary by millions of votes.
Hillary won the popular vote. The margin of Stein/Sanders/3rd party voters in those crucial states show how the election was thrown due to those Bernie or Busters. What an absolute laugh that these folks are blaming Wall Street and corporations when they just helped install a billionaire who is appointing billionaires with their false equivalencies and lies about the Democratic party. If they couldn't have Bernie, then we couldn't have anyone at all. Now look what we have.
JHan
(10,173 posts)tsk tsk.... why we can't have nice things.
boston bean
(36,493 posts)LongtimeAZDem
(4,515 posts)R B Garr
(17,379 posts)I've shaken my head and said those exact words to myself.
The other night I listened to Gore and his knowledge on environmental policy and it took my breath away again how much we missed out on his Presidency. And he wasn't good enough either!
JHan
(10,173 posts)what was the problem then.. he was too stiff? Or what again?
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)that both parties were the same, which is just morally and intellectually dishonest and irresponsible. But the kool Kat anti-Establishment ditto heads just followed him down the rabbit hole. Then they're on to the next new vacuous shiny thing.
blm
(113,824 posts)be letting the GOP off the hook on this.
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)JudyM
(29,517 posts)experience in about 10 states, but it would be helpful to know... I suppose that research and analysis is being done, and likely it won't end up with a definitive answer, but the assumption that she lost for this or that reason is hugely divisive here.
I wonder about this statement, as well, is it accurate?
Sanders' message drew more millenial votes than the Clinton and tRump campaigns combined in the primary season.
portlander23
(2,078 posts)Aaron Blake
Washington Post
But this fact might say it better than any: In the 2016 campaign, Sanders won more votes among those under age 30 than the two presumptive major-party presidential nominees combined. And it wasn't close.
JudyM
(29,517 posts)riversedge
(73,134 posts)picture of her coughing.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Because the Bernie people can't accept a loss or responsibility for the harm they have done.
SidDithers
(44,269 posts)Sid
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Her life's work will be a thing of awe to future generations. Apparently there are too many blinded by bigotry to actually take it all in right now. But history will be far kinder to Clinton than to the spoiler who brought us Herr Donald fucking Drumpf.
Maven
(10,533 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)on this board, we are still at each others throats and can't talk about anything but who's fault the election was or wasn't. We don't actually discuss policy differences amongst us, and couldn't possibly make any headway anyway, because we always invoke Sanders or Clinton in ways that are triggering and un-constructive.
This OP and the responses it has invoked, is a case-in-point of how little movement we are actually making by spinning around in this mire. I think we should stop originating anything that lays blame at the feet of one of our candidates or the other, and continue to ask others to do the same.