2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAll the network news agencies (CNN, MSNBC, FNC, New York Times, etc., ALL!.) are fake news agencies!
They fed us bogus election polls that put democrat supporters to sleep. We did not feel the urgency of getting out the vote and volunteering for the campaign because we were going to win in a LANDSLIDE! Landslide we were told! They completely ruined our chances with those fake news polls!
Lotusflower70
(3,093 posts)Start tuning them out and let them know what you think of their product through emails. Take away your dollars until they start making sense.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)audience numbers are. Have not watch any of the majors since Election Night.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)Just saying
white_wolf
(6,255 posts)I WOULD like for them to cover things better. Honestly, I really feel like a lot of the expectations towards an "unbiased" media leads to false equivalency. It's how Clinton's emails were somehow just as bad as Trump being a conman with a history of sexual assault. So freaking stupid.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)get the red out
(13,595 posts)I think they are afraid of him and his cronies.
maryellen99
(3,798 posts)get the red out
(13,595 posts)I hadn't considered that, I had been so focused on Trump's followers threatening people. There may be even worse things going on out of sight. If that's true, there would be no one to do anything about it, certainly not Trump, the Congress, or the Trump-loving FBI.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)They truly are the poster child for FAKE NEWS.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,600 posts)Oh, Sigmund!
OhZone
(3,216 posts)But I think the polls were right and there was massive election fraud and voter suppression.
Do you really think the polls were fake?
Joe941
(2,848 posts)A-Schwarzenegger
(15,600 posts)SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)A-Schwarzenegger
(15,600 posts)Nice try, OP.
uponit7771
(91,768 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)iluvtennis
(20,868 posts)...they manipulated the info they provided to the public in the interest of their RATINGS. They never help Don the Con's feet to the fire for anything in fear that he would ban their coverage of him and hence affect their ratings. I am very disgusted with them.
And they aren't changing with him as Prz elect. GAH, GAH, GAH
Joe941
(2,848 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)get us on their bad side, and they keep gleefully trashing anything slightly left-leaning anyway. It is the side they play for. Its time we started calling out their corporate affiliations.
jalan48
(14,408 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)run with it. It's all about making money.
jalan48
(14,408 posts)That's why the CIA has used fake news in other countries to sway elections. "It's about money" is the cover story.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)jalan48
(14,408 posts)meow2u3
(24,923 posts)jalan48
(14,408 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Actually the national polls were pretty close, off by a point or two. Just because you really want to believe something, doesn't actually make it true. And the state polls were in line with historical averages going back to 1972.
Yes Clinton was more likely to win than not, but it a small lead with a high number of undecided voters, didn't mean Clinton had some insurmountable lead in the polls.
Please actually bother to go look at the polling data, especially the 538 data, and you will see that you're wrong on this.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,600 posts)by equating them with passive fearful stuff from MSM.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)That's people in general not being equiped to interpret polling.
doc03
(36,713 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)I know exactly what has been on it all these years because of DU. LOL
Peigan68
(137 posts)the term democrat is sometimes used as an insult by right wing republics (see what I just did there?) to undermine our party.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)ucrdem
(15,703 posts)At last count the turnout was 58+ and that was after the turbo-charged voter caging that went on after the VRA was repealed in 2013.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)pnwmom
(109,563 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)pnwmom
(109,563 posts)and many right-wingers do, that there's no difference between the MSM and the fake news sites.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)I said some are worse than others (see post #45), but all publish fake stories. Some do so constantly while others like MSM do so less often. The point is you can't believe everything you hear (even if it comes from MSM). This election cycle they all hurt Hillary and cost us the election! You really think America would have elected tRump if the media wasn't constantly being negative on Hillary with fake and unfair garbage?
pnwmom
(109,563 posts)A-Schwarzenegger
(15,600 posts)is transparent & obvious.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)pnwmom
(109,563 posts)This meme shouldn't be pushed here.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)pnwmom
(109,563 posts)Though the MSM vary in their quality, they produce stories based on reporting.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)pnwmom
(109,563 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)pnwmom
(109,563 posts)Newsweek, etc.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)demon in basement
(72 posts)They're businesses. Remember what Les Moonvez said?