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(48,839 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:37 PM Dec 2016

No, Sean Spicer, no one claims that the elections were "rigged"

though, of course, your side would have had you lost.

But appearing on Smerconish CNN show you kept yelling that you won fair and square, that you got all these electoral votes and Russia had nothing to do with this.

Not with the actual voting. But spreading fake news about Hillary: that pizzeria with child pornography, that she suffered from Parkinson's, all the hacked email - all these convinced many voters not to vote for her. Some, I think, just stayed home.

You claimed that the RNC was not hacked. Perhaps you are right. But let's be honest: had it been, would you stand by each and every email? No doubt Trump was trashed in your emails until Nov. 8. Not to mention the rest of the dwarfs who wanted to get their names in the news.

And as Smerconish and other guests kept saying: how can Trump be a commander in chief if he does not trust his own CIA? And to bring the Iraq WMD to the game - these people are long gone from government.

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No, Sean Spicer, no one claims that the elections were "rigged" (Original Post) question everything Dec 2016 OP
Trump himself told us the election was rigged Drale Dec 2016 #1
We don't know if its the actual voting, Turtle McFuckLips said no to protecting the state level... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #2
I don't think I'd have said the DNC was "hacked." Igel Dec 2016 #3
B##sh##t. Hacking of the DNC and RNC was criminal. Method was phishing, just as criminal as Justice Dec 2016 #4
It's not hacking mythology Dec 2016 #5

uponit7771

(91,768 posts)
2. We don't know if its the actual voting, Turtle McFuckLips said no to protecting the state level...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:27 PM
Dec 2016

... voting machines after the CIA presented them with there could be Russian tampering.

Igel

(36,113 posts)
3. I don't think I'd have said the DNC was "hacked."
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:34 PM
Dec 2016

That sort of means, to me at least, that their servers were hacked, with their main repository of data and information exposed.

They were phished. I guess that's a hack, but it's a distributed hack. A low-grade hack, at best, email account by email account.

My county's government was hacked a few years ago. (It wasn't big news. For good reason.) Somebody managed to figure out some passwords and enter the system. They scammed some info and could have made a mess with some records. That's different from having some county official click on the wrong link and have his emails forwarded to somebody or have his particular computer compromised.

The lingo used is imprecise. Hacking sounds serious; but most of the hacking of the DNC and RNC was trivial.

Now, it's possible that some voter registration systems were hacked, but if so no damage was done. That hacking is different from hacking individual voting machines.

Justice

(7,198 posts)
4. B##sh##t. Hacking of the DNC and RNC was criminal. Method was phishing, just as criminal as
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:24 PM
Dec 2016

hacking by figuring out passwords or stealing a key.

Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
5. It's not hacking
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:48 PM
Dec 2016

Hacking requires technical skill to exploit an unpatched vulnerability in a computer system. Phishing requires users click on a bad link or something else.

The difference is in how you protect your system. Hacking can be limited through technical means, firewalls, software patches etc. Preventing a user from being social engineered is a lot harder. It's hard to convince users to not click on a link in an email and give their password to some random person.

What's ridiculous is people conflating the two. For example look at the original Guccifer who tried to claim he hacked the Clinton email server. What he actually did was social engineer people like Colin Powell and Sydney Blumenthal which he did with an old computer and a cell phone. Not exactly the tools of a real hacker.

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