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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 10:13 PM Dec 2016

So, remember my Trump voting cousin?

Well, now that he started watching the news, he is super scared and has no idea what to expect from Trump going forward. It's like he only started listening to what Trump was actually saying he would do to the economy AFTER he voted for Trump.

So, he has decided to go to college so that he will be occupied until Trump is no longer president. He thinks that if he is in school, Trump can't do anything to hurt him because of all of the programs he says Obama put into place. He also realizes that those jobs are not coming back. He no longer believes Trump is for jobs. He says that maybe Trump is scamming all of us, lol. I'm really really tired. I no longer have the energy to say, " I told you so." Too tired to rub it in. Too tired to tell him his plan is unusual and might be wasting space that someone with actual goals might need to educate themselves. He does want to take a US government class, "To learn how government works". So maybe the space won't really be wasted. He wants to learn. Baby steps. It's progress. I have heard no racist blaming of Mexicans since he realized Trump was the one taking his medicare. That's nice.

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So, remember my Trump voting cousin? (Original Post) bravenak Dec 2016 OP
I want to curl up into a ball metroins Dec 2016 #1
I wish I could sleep for four years bravenak Dec 2016 #9
+1 n/t. okieinpain Dec 2016 #17
Hopefully he's an elector? Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #2
It's never too late to help your cousin. longship Dec 2016 #3
I have to say, babylonsister Dec 2016 #4
And this is why Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #5
That's how we win - one person at a time adigal Dec 2016 #6
Cool jack_krass Dec 2016 #7
when people learn its a beautiful thing. No sense anybody hating on him for being a dumbass before. JCanete Dec 2016 #8
sounds like someone... stillcool Dec 2016 #10
It is to me bravenak Dec 2016 #11
Please tell him to gather up a few thousand brer cat Dec 2016 #12
I would love to but he has no clue what the EC even is bravenak Dec 2016 #13
On All In from Kenosha DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #14
Bernie also pointed out that if Trump didn't follow through on his promises.. Laffy Kat Dec 2016 #30
I heard that too DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #37
I'm guessing he won't be the only one mcar Dec 2016 #15
People who voted for trump are idiots Gothmog Dec 2016 #16
Our new slogan: "Now do you believe us, dumbasses??" I'm having bumper stickers made. Want one? Squinch Dec 2016 #18
I would love a bumper sticker bravenak Dec 2016 #21
And there are more Hillary stickers than before the election. Squinch Dec 2016 #23
Why couldn't he see that before the election?? ailsagirl Dec 2016 #19
I asked him today bravenak Dec 2016 #22
I'm so sorry-- I didn't mean to sound flippant ailsagirl Dec 2016 #24
Don't be sorry bravenak Dec 2016 #25
You can say that again, bravenak!!! ailsagirl Dec 2016 #27
Good for you. Not a single Trump voter who is all of a sudden coming to realize PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #31
Same cousin bravenak Dec 2016 #33
Just don't enable him. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #35
well he's way ahead of most Trump supporters Takket Dec 2016 #20
Better hope that Betsy DeVos doesn't destroy education. muntrv Dec 2016 #26
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that she'll be so busy PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #32
Too late. dhol82 Dec 2016 #28
Let's listen to Sam struggle4progress Dec 2016 #29
I was talking to my Trump voting MIL this morning on the phone meadowlark5 Dec 2016 #34
Ask her exactly how she thinks Trump will make America great again. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #36
It's useless meadowlark5 Dec 2016 #38
One down, 60-something million to go. GoCubsGo Dec 2016 #39
I asked a PuTrump voter last night and the reply was "I don't know about any of that" but they knew uponit7771 Dec 2016 #40

metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. I want to curl up into a ball
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 10:16 PM
Dec 2016

I think the only way to say "I told you so" is to talk to them after 2 years from now.

Hopefully next year I get my spine back and I can help out in the congressional races for 2018.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. It's never too late to help your cousin.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 10:19 PM
Dec 2016

Keep encouraging. If we all survive Drumpf, your cousin may come out okay.

You've done well so far.

babylonsister

(171,619 posts)
4. I have to say,
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 10:37 PM
Dec 2016

this is the first positive impact I've ever read trump having on someone. School is good!

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
6. That's how we win - one person at a time
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 10:59 PM
Dec 2016

Im tired, too. But your post gave me encouragement. Thank you.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
8. when people learn its a beautiful thing. No sense anybody hating on him for being a dumbass before.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 11:28 PM
Dec 2016

Encouragement and support in becoming less of a dumbass is the kind of compassion that we need to promote and build on.

brer cat

(26,293 posts)
12. Please tell him to gather up a few thousand
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:18 AM
Dec 2016

like-minded trump voters and send a letter to your EC representatives telling them ooops, I forgot to do my homework before the election, and now I have changed my mind.

Surely we can make some lemonade here!

DeminPennswoods

(16,319 posts)
14. On All In from Kenosha
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:14 AM
Dec 2016

I caught a few minutes near the end of the broadcast from Kenosha and a couple white guys on the panel of Trump voters sitting with Sanders said they were sure Trump couldn't do any of the things he said because they wouldn't pass Congress. Sanders sort of disabused that notion by saying he was IN Congress and they shouldn't be so sure. One guy even acknowledged that manufacturing jobs like the old days weren't coming back.

My take was these voters were frustrated, Trump told them what they wanted to hear, they thought a lot of it was BS but they figured they'd send a message since nothing bad would happen because someone or something would tie up all the crazy stuff in congress. They never gave a thought that bad stuff might actually happen to them and now they're going to be begging Dem senators to save them from themselves.

Laffy Kat

(16,524 posts)
30. Bernie also pointed out that if Trump didn't follow through on his promises..
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:43 PM
Dec 2016

He was a liar. Why would they want to vote for a liar?

DeminPennswoods

(16,319 posts)
37. I heard that too
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:08 AM
Dec 2016

I thought I noticed a few seconds of kind of stunned silence after that question as if they'd never given that a thought.

mcar

(43,518 posts)
15. I'm guessing he won't be the only one
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:44 AM
Dec 2016

whose eyes are suddenly opened.

I'm also guessing there will be loads of psych studies about how these people were so easily duped.

Squinch

(52,784 posts)
18. Our new slogan: "Now do you believe us, dumbasses??" I'm having bumper stickers made. Want one?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 06:01 PM
Dec 2016

And do you think your cousin is representative of Trump voters? I'd love it if he came into office with a 10% approval rating.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
22. I asked him today
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 09:36 PM
Dec 2016

He literally said, "I thought at least he would get rid of the mexicans!" I said, "you are stupid as fuck and racist with your black ass, Trump don't give a fuck about you, you're black, yiu live on Hell Street." My cousin, he is dumb. I asked him if he felt better not having medicare if mexicans got sent away, he said no, he could die. I broke down and called him forty seven different types of dumbfucks and told him how to register for classes.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,729 posts)
31. Good for you. Not a single Trump voter who is all of a sudden coming to realize
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:11 PM
Dec 2016

that they may actually be worse off under him totally deserves any sympathy. What they deserve is to be told exactly how stupid they were.

You are nicer than I would have been in regards to telling him how to register for classes.

Is this the same relative that owns a brand new SUV and expects others to buy his groceries?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
33. Same cousin
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:45 PM
Dec 2016

His car looks awesome, he looks miserable. I get a bit of a boost when he admits he was wrong. It aint much but its something

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,729 posts)
35. Just don't enable him.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 12:45 AM
Dec 2016

He's an adult. He's made certain decisions. Don't bail him out.

I know how hard it can be with relatives, I've been in a similar place. But since this person has enough income to pay for an SUV, he has enough income to support himself. Hang in there.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,729 posts)
32. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that she'll be so busy
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:12 PM
Dec 2016

destroying the public K-12 schools, that she won't have a chance to hurt the secondary schools.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
34. I was talking to my Trump voting MIL this morning on the phone
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:38 PM
Dec 2016

I made a short comment about my family is not a family that will fare well under a Trump presidency. I have 2 siblings that worked manufacturing for decades and because of bad backs and knees are on disability. One other sibling is an adult but has Asperberger's syndrome. He's high functioning enough that with assistance of county/state regional services and the income from SS as well as SS survivor benefits from my late father, he lives in the home I grew up in on his own. But dependent totally on the govt for income to buy groceries and pay utilities.

All of these family members are at a much greater risk with Trump and his anti-governement, government.

She stopped me and tried to console me by saying, "wait, wait -- Trump will make America great again!" And it was true and sincere. She really meant it as a comfort to my worry. Good God.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,729 posts)
36. Ask her exactly how she thinks Trump will make America great again.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 12:47 AM
Dec 2016

And don't let her get away with platitudes and generalities. Push her, really push her about what she thinks Trump will do.

One problem for all of us is that politicians almost always speak in generalities. We don't require that they give us specifics, and we should.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
38. It's useless
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:34 AM
Dec 2016

I've had my go around with her over the decades. During the Obama years, I had to put a politics talk gag order on her. I told her if she and I are to have a harmonious relationship, we can't talk politics. That made her mad the first year I imposed it and she refused to come out for a visit - either out of anger or because she knew she couldn't control herself. But since then we have stuck to that general rule and things have been fine. I accidentally blurted out the thing about my siblings during a our phone call about Christmas and our plans.

We will go back to that gag order. She speaks in generalities, she let's Fox news form her opinions for her, and she parrots what she hears. It gets me no where but frustrated to discuss politics with her so we don't - can't.

GoCubsGo

(33,033 posts)
39. One down, 60-something million to go.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:45 AM
Dec 2016

Not that I expect most of Comrade Trump's cult followers to have this kind of epiphany...

uponit7771

(91,768 posts)
40. I asked a PuTrump voter last night and the reply was "I don't know about any of that" but they knew
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:57 AM
Dec 2016

... about every other freaking detail about everything else.

They're running from this issue, the Russia issue isn't good for Benedict Donald

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