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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDonald Trump's Russian hacking denials ignore the fact that he asked Russia to hack Hillary Clinton
Donald Trump's comments about hacking and the intelligence community don't mesh with things he actually saidMATTHEW ROZSA
President-elect Donald Trump greeted morning visitors to his infamous Twitter stream with one of his ubiquitous tantrums on Monday morning. This time they concerned allegations of Russian hacking.
Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump
Can you imagine if the election results were the opposite and WE tried to play the Russia/CIA card. It would be called conspiracy theory!
8:17 AM - 12 Dec 2016
31,818 Retweets 96,796 likes
Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump
Unless you catch "hackers" in the act, it is very hard to determine who was doing the hacking. Why wasn't this brought up before election?
8:21 AM - 12 Dec 2016
14,550 Retweets 52,293 likes
Although Trump characterized the discussion of Russias alleged hacking as a partisan move, Republican security experts including Arizona Sen. John McCain and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham have both agreed with the White House and intelligence communitys consensus that Russia was responsible for hacking the Democratic National Committee.
Similarly, although Trump claimed to now know why the issue hadnt been raised before Election Day, he was, in fact, directly asked about the hacking during his Oct. 19 presidential debate with Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.salon.com/2016/12/12/donald-trumps-russia-hacking-denials-ignore-that-he-asked-russia-to-hack-hillary-clinton/
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Donald Trump's Russian hacking denials ignore the fact that he asked Russia to hack Hillary Clinton (Original Post)
DonViejo
Dec 2016
OP
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)1. K&R
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)2. This was in July! This asshole is a serial liar!
I will tell you this, Russia: If youre listening, I hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, the Republican nominee said at a news conference in Florida. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.
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Trumps comments set off an immediate uproar from the Clinton campaign, which blasted the remarks as a threat to national security.
This has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent, Hillary for America policy adviser Jake Sullivan said in a statement. "Thats not hyperbole, those are just the facts. This has gone from being a matter of curiosity, and a matter of politics, to being a national security issue."
I find those kinds of statements to be totally outrageous because youve got now a presidential candidate who is, in fact, asking the Russians to engage in American politics, said former CIA Director Leon Panetta, a Clinton surrogate. I just think thats beyond the pale.
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Trumps comments set off an immediate uproar from the Clinton campaign, which blasted the remarks as a threat to national security.
This has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent, Hillary for America policy adviser Jake Sullivan said in a statement. "Thats not hyperbole, those are just the facts. This has gone from being a matter of curiosity, and a matter of politics, to being a national security issue."
I find those kinds of statements to be totally outrageous because youve got now a presidential candidate who is, in fact, asking the Russians to engage in American politics, said former CIA Director Leon Panetta, a Clinton surrogate. I just think thats beyond the pale.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-putin-no-relationship-226282
gordianot
(15,518 posts)3. We are at the point now with Trump that facts no longer matter.
Nothing is going to happen to Trump no matter what he says and does. The Billionaires boys club are taking new management positions and are entrenched. Voting if it is ever allowed to happen again, violence, protest will not get rid of this mess. It is going to take economic collapse, which may not be that far away, to get rid this particular group of bad actors, then expect more chaos.
BainsBane
(54,796 posts)4. There is more to his denials than this
I fear he may be directly complicit in Russian interference. I want to know what exactly is going on with the server at Trump Tower that regularly communicates with Moscow.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)5. The Presidency of United States has been compromised
Yes they need to investigate all communication between Trump and Russia.