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UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:10 PM Dec 2016

The Russians will not stop now. They know they have their opponent on the ropes.

The Russians will use their ability to hack US computers to build a massive offensive propaganda operation. The Russians know the GOP will never fully investigate how they got into US computer systems and how they flipped this election toward a GOP win.
The Russians will continue this offensive disinformation campaign against the United States until the average American will not trust the system at all. The GOP must be willing to look at this problem objectively and punish all involved as a future deterrent.

That includes Donald trump and Roger Stone!

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KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
1. Putin and Russia have effectively relegated the USA to 3rd world status... with nukes we can't use.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:15 PM
Dec 2016

The Soviet Union is reforming. NATO is gone and China is looking GOOD!

The USA exists as a base for Exxon and Trump and the other billionaires to extract money from the tax payers who will have infrastructure rotting, no safety net and possibly a recession sooner rather than later.

UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
2. I remember telling DUers before the election about not putting their heads in the sand over Comey's
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:20 PM
Dec 2016

deeds. Boy did I get attacked for being a downer and nay sayer.

I am saying it here first. If the United States does not fully investigate exactly how the Russians flipped this election, that includes investigating what Donald Trump knows, then the US is lost.

The CIA & FBI have to get Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Manafort, etc. under oath and have them answer questions to fill in the blanks about Russian connections. Period!!!

 
3. they're still attacking us. paid Russian trolls are everywhere
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:28 PM
Dec 2016

We need to petition Facebook to use (more) IP/VNS crosschecks.

I've gotten my discussion accounts removed 4 different times yet the Russians get a pass.

UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
6. They are also very sophisticated
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 04:25 PM
Dec 2016

Some of the videos being produced are outstanding quality. You would swear that they were done by a major news organization.

Persondem

(2,092 posts)
5. Oh, but we will no longer be Russia's opposition. We are about to be friends
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:41 PM
Dec 2016

Don't cha know.

... and we have always been at war with East Asia.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
7. I'm afraid you are right. Expect.....
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 04:53 PM
Dec 2016

a concerted campaign for Russia to exert influence over the former Soviet states. Expect at least one seizure of of a former possession, and probably expansion of their area of control in Ukraine to include an attempt to secure a land route to Crimea.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
13. Putin is a Hitler or a Stalin.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:28 PM
Dec 2016

You would think this guy would have talked to Gorbachev as to why he decided to allow the USSR to break up and eastern Europe to stop being Soviet satellites. The reason is simple: the USSR simply couldn't afford to have an empire.

Russia ain't any richer now.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. Plutocracies are easy to destroy, because there is no loyalty among wealthy war criminals.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:43 PM
Dec 2016

Also, pragmatism doesn't work against shadow theory. Loses every single time.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
12. The GOP is going to own this.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:27 PM
Dec 2016

It's gonna be a mess, but have the popcorn handy.

The Dems are silent for a reason.

Dawson Leery

(19,372 posts)
14. The GOP needs to disappear.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:30 PM
Dec 2016

Evan McMullin appears serious about rebuilding the center right in modern form.

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