Never Again...

[pbmus]

"In modern day America, we should not tolerate a system where the president has lost the popular vote. The Electoral College must go."

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/310298-we-can-elect-the-next-president-by-popular-vote

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Well, yeah; but it isn't going to go unless there is a Constitutional amendment.

That has to go through Congress, controlled by the GOP, which will not want to give up the EC because it gives greater weight to rural, conservative states.

[pbmus]

5. Constitutional amendment , not necessary...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. Yes, it is. The electoral college and the procedures it uses

are specifically set out in the Constitution, Article II, section 1. We're stuck with them unless the Constitution is amended.

[pbmus]

7. I have studied it, and you are incorrect..sorry

I do not want to argue with you..

Especially since this PE is going to walk all over the constitution

[SickOfTheOnePct]

8. There is a way to work around the EC

if enough states sign on, but absent a Constitutional amendment, there is no way to get rid of it.

[pbmus]

9. Yes, you are correct...

That is the purpose of the petition..

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. I'm not incorrect.

I used to teach constitutional law (it was a long time ago but the constitution hasn't changed since then), so I think I have a pretty good idea what I'm talking about. The problem with the proposed solution is that it depends on the states to agree to it, and even if they did, in the absence of a constitutional amendment the states can change their minds and rescind their agreements. And there's absolutely no incentive for the rural small-population states, which under the current electoral college system get more votes per their population than the large, heavily-populated states, to agree to something that would in effect take power away from them.

[duffyduff]

10. Read the article that explains how it can be circumvented.

n/t

[EL34x4]

11. This election was a wake-up call to Republicans.

It opened their eyes to the fact that with massive populations of Democrats in California and New York, they'll probably never be able to win the national popular vote again.

Expect them to defend the Electoral College now more than ever.

[treestar]

2. In spite of the naysayers, we should at least try

I'm from a state where my vote weighs too heavily and I'm for doing away with it.

[Guilded Lilly]

3. Yes. RESIST.

[Joe941]

4. This should definitely happen.

[Eric J in MN]

12. Al Gore: Ending the EC would 'stimulate public participation in the democratic process'

...'like nothing else we could possibly do.'

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307966-al-gore-says-he-supports-elimination-of-electoral-college

[jack_krass]

13. "The Electoral College must go."

I disagree. Besides it being impracticable to overturn, I dont fully agree that CA and NY should decide the POTUS, and that small states should have no weight.

Thw EC is telling us something: That we need candidates and messaging with broader appeal. If we tune our message to support all working people, well be fine.