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If you do not see the Trumpster limiting press (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2016 OP
Damn right he's a fascist. A corporate fascist. Lint Head Dec 2016 #1
He's a Trumpist. Orsino Dec 2016 #8
O'Brien NTOZamboni Dec 2016 #2
Welcome to DU pbmus Dec 2016 #3
Thanks! Still finding my way around. NTOZamboni Dec 2016 #6
I think that you start out authoritarian and become fascist.. pbmus Dec 2016 #7
When you say limit press... RonniePudding Dec 2016 #4
I believe he will limit at first...access to everything pbmus Dec 2016 #5
Guantanamo Bay Johnny2X2X Dec 2016 #9
I rec'd for the truth about facism, but there will be plenty of propaganda LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #10
If my history serves me right, all fascists are "populists"... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #11

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. He's a Trumpist.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 10:02 AM
Dec 2016

The "corporate" part is just coincidence. The fascism will be the effect, but let's not kid ourselves about his even understanding what fascism is. He's lazy and ignorant, wants what he wants when he wants it, and doesn't care about how it gets done, as long as he gets credit.

He's ruining the good name of fascism by being a mere spoiled man-child.

NTOZamboni

(21 posts)
2. O'Brien
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:58 PM
Dec 2016

Is there a difference between a fascist and an authoritarian?

He reminds me of the regime in 1984. Does't believe in anything except power.

pbmus

(12,439 posts)
3. Welcome to DU
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:10 PM
Dec 2016

Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe, influenced by national syndicalism. Fascism originated in Italy during World War I and spread to other European countries. Fascism opposes liberalism, Marxism and anarchism and is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][4]
Fascists saw World War I as a revolution that brought massive changes in the nature of war, society, the state, and technology. The advent of total war and total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilian and combatant. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war.[5][6] The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.[5][6]
Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete, and they regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.[7] Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society.[7] Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature, and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation.[8][9][10][11] Fascists advocate a mixed economy,
with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.

NTOZamboni

(21 posts)
6. Thanks! Still finding my way around.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:20 PM
Dec 2016

And ... yeah, that's my point. I don't think Trump really opposed liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism. I don't think he could _define_ them. He's more purely an authoritarian, don't you think? Absolute obedience to his authority is what he wants, though of course there's a lot of overlap.

pbmus

(12,439 posts)
7. I think that you start out authoritarian and become fascist..
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:26 PM
Dec 2016

The excuse to become fascist is to control the chaos which results from being authoritarian ..

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
4. When you say limit press...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:10 PM
Dec 2016

Do you mean access to the WH, briefings etc. or, do you mean he's going to jail journalists who write negative stories about his policies? Two very different things.

My guess is he'll limit by exclusion (except for Fox etc.) and not attempt to jail members of the media. You won't see him doing any press conferences that's for sure.

pbmus

(12,439 posts)
5. I believe he will limit at first...access to everything
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:13 PM
Dec 2016

Jail will not come until second or third year when open revolt has started and he sees press as fomenting crisis ...

Johnny2X2X

(21,766 posts)
9. Guantanamo Bay
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 10:05 AM
Dec 2016

Before this is over Trump will have sent many journalists to Guantanamo Bay to live out their days. Seriously.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
10. I rec'd for the truth about facism, but there will be plenty of propaganda
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:13 AM
Dec 2016

It's what we've been getting for quite some time now.

the media puts the lazy in Laissez-faire.

Wounded Bear

(60,697 posts)
11. If my history serves me right, all fascists are "populists"...
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:24 AM
Dec 2016

although that term gets thrown around a lot, and not always correctly IMHO. Just being "popular" does not mean that the politician labeled a populist has majority support. In fact, I believe that most populists tend to be supported by a very vocal minority, and thrive in a society in which many, many voters don't participate. That is certainly true in Trump's case.

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