McMillen:"I know for a fact" that GOP knew about RUSSIAN ELECTION MEDDLING

[LaydeeBug]

and did nothing to stop it.

Now the R S T L N E-ers are going to start with the 'lick your wounds', 'hone your message' and let's just move on and focus on blocking him in the legislature' usual tripe. Funny how the resounding chorus is "there's no way you can prove it" while the KGB/GOP signals they're "willing to investigate" themselves.

RUSSIA DID NOT ONLY HACK EMAILS, THEY HACKED THE FUCKING ELECTION. Remember the blue tsunami? Remember the abrupt shut down in swing states? Remember that DU was hacked for a fucking reason. Do NOT let the R S T L N E-er's frame the fucking narrative.


http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/310388-mcmullin-gop-knew-about-russian-meddling-in-election-and-ignored-it

[drm604]

1. I don't disagree with the article

but I'm curious about your Wheel of Fortune reference. What's the connection?

[LaydeeBug]

2. it's a reference to the same posters lambasting me (and others) for speaking TRUTH

It's the same old, same old, so I referred to them as the R S T L N E-ers, because it won't be long before they start saying that I am making this all up.

[Freeman0311]

24. Confused

I still don't get what it is.

Once upon a time we use to be the party of the nations conscience..always inclusive and open to differences of opinion..opinions that we could change because of the strength of our arguments.
Now we stifle differences of opinion. We place labels on people now making sure they know they're not welcome unless they agree?

IMHO our party, our ideology really came into its own on the backs of those brave souls during the 60's. Those brave souls who fought for (and suffered thru beatings and having labels placed on them) stopping corporate greed, needless wars, gender rights, civil rights, protecting the environment, social justice, free speech..the list could go on and on. That wonderful generation spreading truth and love. They wanted debate because the merits of their solutions were strong, right and could stand on their own...how did we get to where we're at now?

I'm not disagreeing with your premise, I just hate to see debate stifled and labels thrown around.

Peace

[LaydeeBug]

25. Welcome to DU. nt

[madaboutharry]

3. What does R S T L N E mean?

I don't think I'm the only one who doesn't know.

[LaydeeBug]

7. see post #2. nt

[tomp]

9. that post doesn't appear to "spell" it out for me.

aren't those the letters you get for free in the wheel of fortune grand prize round. and if so, wtf, anyway?

[LaydeeBug]

15. LOL. I am sorry you don't 'get' the reference

I can explain it to you, but I can't *understand* it for you.

[Lucky Luciano]

16. That is some seriously cryptic shit ya got going there. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. Explain the damn thing and don't be coy. Help your fellow DU members.

Leave the understanding up to us. An explanation would get us 90 % of the way there.

But you can play in-group / out-group coolness oneupmanship some more if you prefer.

ITWAKVN

[LaydeeBug]

21. I wasn't being coy. I *did* explain it

but I will again...they are the same chorus acting as if Hillary needed to hone her message.

Or that Russia didn't do this...it was about bathrooms.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. So, what do the letters mean and what relevance do they have?

Surely you can see that multiple readers have the same questions about the letters and that no attempt has been made to explain what the letters stand for or mean or what their relevance is. Why those letters and not others?

[LisaM]

54. She's just using it as a euphemism for people who keep saying the same thing.

It's the same letters given to any contestant ahead of time before the final puzzle comes up. I don't think it works all the well in the telling, but I get what she's trying to say - that it's always the same.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

56. Thanks LisaM.

[cwydro]

62. I've never watched game shows.

Completely confused by this.

Weird.

[brush]

18. What's with the secrecy? Just tell us what the letters stand for, for God's sake.

[ToxMarz]

8. LOL, I was going to ask the same thing

The article link doesn't answer

[Johnny2X2X]

4. Trump campaign worked with Russia

Remember the several times his campaign appeared to know what was going tinned in the next round of email leaks? Yeah, I remember too.

Trumpand his campaign were working directly with Putin in the leaks of the hacked emails. That's going to be easy to prove, just show the tape of them talking about leaked emails before they were leaked. It definitely happened.

Trump and his campaign are guilty of espionage for a foreign government. This needs to be pushed now.

[Botany]

10. D. Trump asked the Russia to Hack HRC's computers / McConnell was told too.

Trump publicly called for Russia to hack the DNC and HRC’s campaign.

Donald Trump Calls on Russia to Find Hillary Clinton’s Missing Emails


DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen, essentially urging a foreign adversary to conduct cyberespionage against a former secretary of state.

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0 happened in July 2016

*****

McConnell was told that we had to increase security around our elections because of Russian actions and he blocked it.

Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

Though U.S. intelligence agencies were skeptical that hackers would be able to manipulate the election results in a systematic way, the White House feared that Russia would attempt to do so, sowing doubt about the fundamental mechanisms of democracy and potentially forcing a more dangerous confrontation between Washington and Moscow.

In a secure room in the Capitol used for briefings involving classified information, administration officials broadly laid out the evidence U.S. spy agencies had collected, showing Russia’s role in cyber-intrusions in at least two states and in hacking the emails of the Democratic organizations and individuals.


snip

The Democratic leaders in the room unanimously agreed on the need to take the threat seriously. Republicans, however, were divided, with at least two GOP lawmakers reluctant to accede to the White House requests.

According to several officials, McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.62bd935992b9 happened in Sept. 2016

[LaydeeBug]

35. This. nt

[red dog 1]

50. + 1

From the WaPo article you cite:

(Re; the September bi-partisan intelligence briefing ordered by Obama)

In a secure room in the capital used for briefings involving classified material, administration officials broadly laid out the evidence U.S. spy agencies had collected, showing Russia's role in cyber-intrusions in at least two states and the hacking of emails of the Democratic organizations and individuals.
And they made a case for a united, bipartisan front in response to what one official described as "the threat posed by unprecedented meddling by a foreign power in our election process."

Some Clinton supporters saw the White House's reluctance to act without bipartisan support as further evidence of an excessive caution in facing adversaries:
"The lack of an administration response on the Russian hacking cannot be attributed to Congress," said Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-CA), the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, who was at the September meeting,
"The administration has all the tools it needs to respond.
They have the ability to impose sanctions.
They have the ability to take clandestine means.
The administration has decided NOT TO UTILIZE THEM IN A WAY THAT WOULD DETER THE RUSSIANS, and I think that's the problem."

[LaydeeBug]

52. This right here. nt

[triron]

53. So is the administration afraid of the Russians or what?

This is all a big mystery to me. Why wasn't Trump called out on this by intelligence when he asked the Russians to hack Hillary's emails? This is overtly asking a foreign adversary to use espionage against the United States. He later encouraged wikileaks as well even though there was intelligence linking wikileak's releases to Russian hackers. He got away with this!

[red dog 1]

61. He gets away with EVERYTHING!

As he himself has said on multiple occasions:
"I can do anything I want!"

[LisaM]

55. If this is true.....

add it to the list of insurmountable obstacles Hillary faced. And still won by 3,000,000 votes.

[red dog 1]

57. "If this is true.."??

I don't think Rep. Adam Schiff would lie.

Add it to the list of "obstacles Hillary faced" by Obama's mysterious actions (such as asking her to concede early), and inactions, (such as what Botany pointed out in reply # 10) relating to the "Coup" by Trump, Putin & the GOP.

"It was a coup...end of story"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512618383

[LisaM]

58. Oh, I think it's true.

I should have phrased it better.

[red dog 1]

60. Thanks for clearing that up

(I didn't mean to "jump on you" about it)

[Vinca]

5. And why, exactly, was McMullin quiet until now??????????

The GOP seems to be filled with people who put party over country and don't understand the meaning of the word "treason."

[Fast Walker 52]

6. I heard an interview with him-- a very reasonable old-fashioned conservative

and his party committed fucking treason.

[LaydeeBug]

13. I agree with you nt

[SpicyBoi]

20. Conservatives are reasonable now?

[Fast Walker 52]

29. he's one of the few

[triron]

41. Isn't he a former intelligence officer?

[Fast Walker 52]

42. yep-- they described him as a former "CIA operative"

[Cosmocat]

11. This is a complete repeat of Iraq

total bullshit and lies to get the country to go into Iraq.

You were an American POS if you questioned it generally.

They virulently defended it, the VP's office outed Valerie Plame during their bloodlust to discredit Joe Wilson is the primary example of their scorched earth approach against anyone of significance who tried to get the truth out.

After it turned into a complete disaster and was no longer defensible and Bush was on his way out it was "oh, gee, the country just could not withstand hearings and impeachment over it ..."

[fleabiscuit]

12. It was an attack by Russia.

I suggest we stop the sugar coating. Our Democracy was attacked. The "R S T L N E-er's" are trying to make it party politics.

It wasn't, It was a Russian attack on our Democracy. To sugar coat it is aiding an enemy that attacked us.

[LaydeeBug]

14. Thank you for this. nt

[brush]

19. Do you know what "R S T L N E" since no one else seems willing to share that info for some reason?

[Snarkoleptic]

27. Shhhhhh! It's Illuminati code for spirit cooking, while eating pizza in DC.

I believe it's a reference to "Wheel of Fortune" where the final puzzle 'gimme' letters are always RSTLNE.
So it means that some posters are automatically and reflexively adopting a certain point of view.

OTOH, it could mean...

R ussia
S upports
T Rump
L ike
N oone
E lse

[LaydeeBug]

28. It is *exactly* this. nt

[duffyduff]

22. They are all about winning. They aren't about leading.

Starting with Newt back in the 1980s, they have thrown decorum out the window in favor of Machiavellian politics.

They will be paying dearly for this once Trump is installed.

[duffyduff]

23. Please stop with these acronyms.

It makes the entire thread unreadable.

[Achilleaze]

26. Frikken Republicans and their Evil Empire Overlords...

[melman]

30. If the OP refuses

to explain what R S T L N E means the post should be removed. Unfortunately there's no way to alert for something like that.

[LaydeeBug]

31. There is, however, this novel thing called READ THE THREAD and see posts #2, 21, and 27

nt

[melman]

32. Right

[LaydeeBug]

34. You're welcome.

nt

[LanternWaste]

36. Funny in many threads how we fixate and whine on the odd, the benign and the small

Funny in many threads how we fixate like third-graders and whine about the odd, the benign and the small rather than discuss the relevant, the critical and the premise. Undisciplined minds are easily distracted. Unfortunately, there's no way to alert on mazy minds either...

[melman]

37. Good point

lol @"mazy minds"

[melman]

38. And another thing

Readability is not a small issue.


If people can't understand a post and the person refuses to clarify, that's a problem.

[LaydeeBug]

49. Umm...the response to the OP is a bit at odds with your assessment here.

Also, I didn't *refuse* to clarify *anything* thankyouverymuch

[LaydeeBug]

40. yes. this. nt

[fleabiscuit]

39. This attack will have real casualties.

The Trump/Russian attack on our Democracy is going to have real casualties; re Republithugs removing health care from the most vulnerable.

And think of the many other ways...
Environmental
Work safety
Product safety
add your own...

[triron]

43. Harry Reid went so far

as to say they not only knew about it but were in on it (implying coordination).
Don't know why Harry is holding the details back.

[LaydeeBug]

44. We dare call it treason, because it fucking well *is*. nt

[triron]

45. Knr

But ho hum who cares?

[Yurovsky]

46. So the Russians took down DU?

Holy shit, somebody finally took my inane ramblings seriously?

[triron]

47. knr

[TheFrenchRazor]

48. definitely. nt

[red dog 1]

51. McMillen is right!

See responses # 10 and # 50

[BainsBane]

59. It's unfortunate the rest of the GOP doesn't have McMillen's integrity