GOT A REPLY FROM A REPUBLICAN ELECTOR !!

[pangaia]

Last edited Thu Dec 15, 2016, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)

I emailed all the republican electors using one of the 'contact the electors" sites.. forget which one. I used their form email plus a little of my own copy...ONE guy replied and it says it all. He told me to "PASS THE NEWS ALONG."
So, I am passing it along.



My email....

Dear........,

On December 19, you and the other Electors will cast your ballots to elect a President. If you all vote the way your states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, you can vote for Hillary Clinton if you choose.

Therefore, I hope you will exercise your Constitutional right to cast your ballot for Secretary Clinton. Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsiveness, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience, in addition to his being a narcissistic megalomaniac, make him a danger to the Republic.

Secretary Clinton won the popular vote - by nearly 2 million votes - and should be President. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College. But electing Trump is not consistent with the Founder's intentions when they created the Electoral College. The Electoral College was created, in the words of Alexander Hamilton, to prevent the Presidency from falling to "any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications." This is the moment where you were meant to lead.

If 38 of Trump's 306 electors vote Clinton, she'll become President. You are the last check in a system perilously close to making a tyrant the President. I hope you'll honor the will of the majority of voters and vote to elect Hillary Clinton President. Our nation depends on it.

Sincerely,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


REPLY

"It amazes me that there is nobody on the Clinton team who is smart enough to come up with another email. I have gotten over 300 copies of this one. No wonder she lost.
Clinton is a criminal, and all of her views are diametrically opposed to mine.
I was elected to cast my vote for the Republican candidate. That is Trump. I will vote for him with no reservations, and no amount of pleading or threats will dissuade me.
Pass the news along.
All the best to you,
*****"

[C_U_L8R]

1. What a jerk.

We're in the hands of idiots like this. God help us all.

[pangaia]

3. I debated starting a 'conversation' with him. But then thought better of it.

[metroins]

4. At least he responded

and told the op that he's received the same letter.

If I got the same letter 300 times I'd just trash them without reading.

[Buzz Clik]

7. Please. You want that elector to shirk his duty to do your bidding.

What bullshit.

[pangaia]

9. Thanks buzz. duly noted.

edited to ad an s to "thank'

[Buzz Clik]

13. Message deleted by DU the Administrators

[pangaia]

16. What in the world are you talking about?

[C Moon]

20. Indeed. That was strange.

[Buzz Clik]

37. "What? Little ol' me. I declare...."

Save it for a rookie.

[NCTraveler]

42. Nothing gets by a seasoned veteran.

[C_U_L8R]

40. Buzz, sorry he's still a jerk

And the real 'bullshit' is the crooked Hillary nonsense he's spouting.
Like it or not, these shitheads are in control of the country on your behalf.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

34. He's probably annoyed at getting so many identical emails flooding his inbox

You NEVER spam identical chain letters when you want to be taken seriously. Put shit in your own words....seriously. If they get carbon copies of the identical email so many times they aren't going to read or pay any attention at all and will just tune it out. If people are going to write then write in your OWN words and appeal to concerns about national security, the constitution, FREEDOM, etc.

Yeah, the guy was a jerk in his response but he may not have been before getting spammed with the same email hundreds of times. JMHO.

[pangaia]

68. You are right...

As quite a few others have told me...


Next time....

[fleur-de-lisa]

2. Please provide his email address . . .

I will troll the shit out of him.

[pangaia]

5. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to...

But, No. It is not worth it.

[Buzz Clik]

8. Good plan. That puts you (and anyone else doing this) in the same sewer as the Tea Party.

I'll pass on that.

[fleur-de-lisa]

11. What's your problem?

I have emailed a whole bunch of electoral college voters.

[Buzz Clik]

14. THAT is my problem.

Go for it. Your actions define you. I'm okay with that, but I don't have to associate myself with that behavior.

[fleur-de-lisa]

17. I don't recall asking you to do so.

By your comments in this thread, you seem to be in a really sour mood. I hope your day gets better.

[NCTraveler]

47. +1

Very kind.

[pangaia]

18. Then don't.

[TrekLuver]

46. I will troll when need be. I have a lot worse actions than that to define me thankyouverymuch

[mtnsnake]

43. I'm just guessing, but I don't think he has a problem with anyone emailing an elector

I think the problem is where you said you "will troll the shit out of him."

[unblock]

6. this is why i think the electoral college revolt scenarios are all fantasy.

defections are extremely rare and 37 is way, way beyond the usual, 0 or 1, and i think maybe 2 at most.

these people are chosen for their loyalty, and told their one job is to vote for the chosen candidate.

republicans are generally extremely loyal to their party, and these guys are the most loyal from among that loyal crowd.


never mind that the best case is that it forces the election into the house, where they just vote for donnie anyway.

[Buzz Clik]

10. +1

A dose of reality in fantasy land.

[pangaia]

15. I agree with you 100%.. maybe only 70% about the fantasy.

But,, I have to do SOMETHING.

I have emailed/or called representatives, white house, signed petition, etc etc..

If I don't do something, then...

[unblock]

19. by all means, go for it. there's no downside.

just do it with eyes wide open. it won't get hillary in the white house in any event.

but if all we get out of this is the electors break a record and more republicans defect than ever before, that itself is a (small) political victory and weakens donnie.

republicans keep winning because of their "death by 1,000 cuts" strategy of constantly diminishing the opposition. we have to fight back everywhere we can.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

36. If you are going to write to them then DON'T us a form letter, make it personal

Because those are the only kinds of letters that have any chance of having an impact. Make it about the things Republicans ALSO care about...like FREEDOM, the US Constitution and National Security.

[pangaia]

48. You are right...

It was like 2-3 am and I was too tired or just lazy to make one up..

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

55. FREEDOM, the US Constitution and National Security are things the Rs pretend to care about.

In fact they care about two things: money and power. Unless you're offering them one of those two things, they don't listen.

[madaboutharry]

12. What a nasty creepy unintelligent man.

He obviously has spent the last 20 years listening to Fox News.

[C Moon]

22. Yes. And for some reason I thought the Electors were of some higher level. Not so, I guess.

We must do away with that archaic system of voting.

[TheCowsCameHome]

27. All the more reason to not want an elector to go rogue.

Who wants to be in the hands of a nasty, creepy, unintelligent jerk elector?

[LonePirate]

21. Thank you for your efforts!

A form letter email is never a good idea, though. Yes, it might save time but all they do is annoy the recipient.

Also, we will NEVER convince the typical, partisan elector to vote for Hillary instead of him. If we're not pushing someone like Romney or McMullin or some other not as horrible Republican, they will never change their votes. If there indeed was a consensus other candidate, I was not aware of it.

[pangaia]

50. You are certainly right about the form letter.

I should have thought that through.
But it was like 2-3 am and I was.. too tired and probably just too lazy.

[Goblinmonger]

23. There will be no electoral revolt.

Thinking so is just fantasy land. And even if they did, they aren't going to vote for Clinton but for a different Republican.

And he has a point about the form letter.

[pangaia]

25. Agreed..except for the fantasy part....surely fantasy.....BUT....

The Red Sox won the 2004 World Series. :&gt )

I MUST do something....

[immoderate]

24. The electors will not stick their necks out!

They will leave it to the congress to impeach (which I have predicted will happen by December. )

--imm

[pangaia]

26. Really? You think they will impeach? I could drink to that...

Hope you are right.

[immoderate]

28. Yes, I think they will. But a lot of chaos will precede it.

I think there will be a lot of demonstrations and police violence during the summer. People who voted for him, because they didn't like Hillary will realize what they're getting.

I think Donald likes to piss people off. There's not a future in that.

--imm

[flamingdem]

29. Oh what an idiot

At least you got under his skin!

[Jean-Jacques Roussea]

30. what a bad attempt at persuasion

Stop with the dem arguments. You need to present yourself as a commie-fearing republican that's terrified of tyranny and thinks Trump will take your guns eventually. Then you need to sprinkle it with misogyny and say "man up and vote for crooked Hillary". Say "I don't like it anymore than you do but at least congress will keep her in check". Throw in a "she'll be impeached immediately and we'll get Kaine"

Keywords: "wall street" "elitist (Trump's cabinet)" "patriot (directed at the elector)" "socialism/Nanny state (Carrier deal)" &quot repeal of) Medicare, Medicaid, and social security" "foreign (Russians)"

[TrekLuver]

44. No Red Blooded Republican would say vote for Hillary.

[Jean-Jacques Roussea]

49. No shit, but it's not like they have the deductive reasoning skills to recognize that

[pangaia]

67. Humm.. not bad ideas at all...

I was just too lazy. It was a form letter and it was like 2-3 am, as I mentioned elsewhere..

[Orsino]

31. An elector who doesn't see that Trump is unqualified...

...is unqualified. This one is also as smug as his idol.

[pangaia]

51. Well sorry you feel that way.

But it is exactly as I said it happened.

I supposed I could copy and paste my email, his reply email with email address, full names, etc, if that would convince you, but I am not about to do that.

For what it is worth, I did also get about , oh maybe 15 returned emails as un-deliverable addresses..

[pangaia]

53. BTW,..1-,it was NOT my style of writing.

It was a form letter, which others here have criticized me for using, and rightly so, I might add.

2-Also, who is to say that nobody else in the USA to get a response from him?

3-His wording was "unprofessional" because.. who knows.. he is not a professional, he is a jerk, all of the above.

[NCTraveler]

59. That might have been your second response from him.

Don't blame him for being embarrassed and not wanting to admit it's his writing.

[mtnsnake]

60. Just how do you know the OP is the only person in the US to get a response from an elector?

[mtnsnake]

33. pangaia

I think I know who sent you that response. Is it alright with you if I post it here on your thread, or would you rather that I don't?

[pangaia]

35. mtnsnake

i would rather not...
please pm me

thanks

[mtnsnake]

39. sure, no problem

[hamsterjill]

38. Hang on to his email address, even if you choose not to share it.

Make a reminder to yourself to ask this arrogant son-of-a-bitch how things are a couple of years from now for him and his "views".

I'm guessing this jerk is from Texas because we've got a whole passel of them down here with that kind of an attitude. No interest in seeing the workings of a true democracy fulfilled (i.e., that the Electoral College might actually be expected to have due consideration and discussion); only interest in getting THEIR idiot candidate in the office so individual rights will be overturned.

[pangaia]

41. will do..

Last edited Thu Dec 15, 2016, 02:08 PM - Edit history (1)

ON EDIT::
changed my mind.

I have no wish to berate the guy..
I have better things to do...

[hamsterjill]

64. As you wish...

But I will say that some people are simply asking to be berated!!! LOL His response was snarky and uncalled for.

[pangaia]

66. Well, true.. and that happens here as well. LOL..

[TrekLuver]

45. I would just like to say thank you for trying. I see people downing you because you didn't say

this or that. At least you tried...which is a hell of a lot more than other folks. Don't let ANYONE discourage you.

[pangaia]

52. I am not discouraged at all..

The only change I SHOULD have made that several people pointed out, is not to use a form letter, but to create it myself.

Next time, I will..

Thanks

[LisaM]

54. We have an elector who thinks she is a criminal.

Well. that's reassuring.

[pangaia]

56. I thought of asking hie about that, but.. eh why bother....

[LisaM]

58. Give us his address!

If he wants 300 original messages, we should oblige him.

[hamsterjill]

70. Hee hee.

I like the way you think!

[Afromania]

57. Jim

whoever the hell you are,
thank you for your resolve to complete the systematic, and wholesale, disassembly of this country's potential for continued greatness. With your resolve we will undoubtedly find our new niche in the global scheme as a second world terrorists highly rewarding and lucrative(for 0.01% anyway). Thank You for all of the thoughtful, partisan decisions in your life that led you to this point. One where you would willingly vote against the ability of your fellow countrymen's ability to continue their pursuit of life liberty and happiness.

[JCanete]

61. That's the second elector email response i've seen posted on here, and it really does not give me

any confidence in our system's open-ended methodology for appointing these people to these positions of power, regardless of how straight-forward their duty is usually expected to be.

They just sound like crazy citizens, rather than public servants, which, to be fair is what Republicans sound like these days, but this person seems poorly equipped to handle these duties of state thoughtfully and with decorum, no matter how ultimately his or her vote is cast(it's perfectly reasonable not to want to ignore the will of one's state, and frankly I expect that of an elector, barring demonstrable Trump treason that is).

[Afromania]

65. electors website

There was a website with information on some of the electors that could be reached. Along with contact info was links to their Facebook pages. Just about all of them seemed like party hacks on board with Trump. No help is coming people we're going to have to weather this thing and pray(or not pray) that we aren't nuked right the hell off this rock. If it does happen I hope somebody forgets Trump outside when the bombs hit.

[still_one]

62. Sorry abot that pang, but it really isn't a surprise. When I was call banking into some swing

states a few calls that were voting for trump were really assholes. Fortunately, the vast majority were good people, but then again they were voting for Hillary

[pangaia]

63. Oh, I didn't mind the email at all..

really surprised to get one.

[still_one]

69. True, he did respond. Thanks for sharing the experienced

[Coyotl]

71. I'm old enough to remember when a criminal was someone conviced in a court of law, and when

a Republican was someone capable or reason.

[TheFrenchRazor]

72. Party Uber Alles!!! they are TRAITORS to the american people. end of story. nt