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iluvtennis

(20,868 posts)
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 12:34 AM Dec 2016

A letter @POTUS just received from 4000 lawyers:

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-jnY6gQhlDbVUrS4Et69l3SAKb1H4znwniKl7fPe4js/mobilebasic

December 13, 2016

Dear Leaders:

We are a group of attorneys throughout the United States. Like our elected officials, each of us has taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. We are deeply concerned that recent revelations regarding the 2016 election could undermine confidence in the outcome of the 2016 election.

The public has recently learned that a bipartisan group of United States elected officials was provided a briefing by U.S. intelligence agencies in September. This briefing contained credible evidence that Russia was not only carrying out a campaign of disinformation against United States citizens, but was in the opinion of U.S. intelligence agencies, likely doing so with the goal of ensuring a specific outcome in the U.S. election. Despite this red flag, this bipartisan group chose not to alert the public or to issue a bipartisan statement urging state and local officials to take federal help in protecting their voting-registration and balloting machines from Russian cyber-intrusions. There is therefore now a question as to whether such interference did occur, which in combination with the Russian disinformation campaign and likely hacking of political parties' emails, threatens to delegitimize the results of the 2016 election.

Like the bipartisan group of Senators (Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), and Jack Reed (D-R.I.)) who issued a statement on Sunday, December 11, we believe that potential Russian interference in the election should alarm every American and that Congress must investigate further without allowing it to become a partisan issue.

We further believe that this series of events represents an unprecedented threat to the United States and to the integrity of the 2016 election. Therefore, we need to allow for a thorough and proper investigation of these issues, and to ensure the integrity of the remaining steps of our election process as well as future elections.

The Constitution provides for a safeguard to help us to ensure that no one can take the office of President if there is reason to believe that the election was compromised by outside forces: the Electoral College. Like a growing bipartisan group of Electors who have called for an intelligence report to be provided to them prior to their vote, we believe it is necessary for the members of the Electoral College to have as much information as possible about the nature of the possible intrusions into the United States' democratic process by the Russian government prior to voting, so that they may make an informed decision as to who should become our next President.

We therefore request the following actions be taken immediately:

1) As much information as possible regarding the potential Russian interference with our election must be declassified with sufficient time for the Electors to receive it prior to December 19 so that the Electors may have sufficient information to make an informed decision prior to voting.

2) The Electors must receive an intelligence report detailing what senior intelligence officials know and suspect at this time, prior to voting. This information should include a briefing by the Director of National Intelligence.

3) If it is not possible to declassify this information in time, the date of the Electoral College vote must be delayed until such time as it is possible to provide the Electors with sufficient information for them to make an informed decision prior to voting.

Furthermore, we support a Congressional bipartisan commission to investigate the actions, intent, and results of the likely Russian interference with the 2016 election; and to determine the vulnerabilities in our system that allowed these possible intrusions to occur. This commission must recommend steps to prevent such an intrusion from occurring in the future.

This is not a partisan issue. This may be a fundamental threat to our democracy from a foreign nation with a real effect on the outcome of this election, the extent of which is not yet known. As Americans who are loyal first and foremost to our Constitutional democracy, we must work together to overcome any such threat.

1. Ryan Sullivan (TX)
2. Ricki Goodstein (PA)
3. Andrea Likwornik Weiss (NY)
4. Francey (PA)
5. Shari Gribbin (PA)
6. Jaunita Flessas (DC)
7. Amanda Glickman (VA)
8. Carol Meltzer (NY)
9. Mary Ellen Halloran (NJ)
10. Cheryl D. Harris (NY, GA)
11. Ethan Mann (GA)
12. Alexandra Haas (CO)
13. Ingrid Leverett (CA)
14. Elizabeth Inglehart (IL, NY)
15. Veronica Rodriguez ( TX)
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3999. Chris Barnett (CA)
4000. Eun-Hee Chang (CA)
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A letter @POTUS just received from 4000 lawyers: (Original Post) iluvtennis Dec 2016 OP
BRAVO!!! Raster Dec 2016 #1
Kick WheelWalker Dec 2016 #2
Wow! triron Dec 2016 #3
Apparently Obama is off for vacation in Hawaii after today. PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #4
That may be a very interesting one! triron Dec 2016 #5
Don't get your hopes up. Kotya Dec 2016 #16
Wow Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #6
holy shitshgamongers pbmus Dec 2016 #7
thanks zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #8
Kick Hekate Dec 2016 #9
K&R for these American patriots! ffr Dec 2016 #10
They should send another one to the EC electors with specific threats world wide wally Dec 2016 #11
400 Lawyers NOT 4000 flying-skeleton Dec 2016 #12
??? I see 4000 signatures on that document. Silver Gaia Dec 2016 #14
I wonder how many of them are lawyers. Kotya Dec 2016 #15
That's why I suggested that anyone could do research to determine the veracity of the signatures. Silver Gaia Dec 2016 #17
Bravo I am an American Dec 2016 #13
Are ALL Democrats in Congress on board with this as well? jalan48 Dec 2016 #18
I'll bet that Joe Manchin isn't. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #24
That makes two of us leanforward Dec 2016 #26
Good! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #19
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #20
I would angrily disagree tavernier Dec 2016 #21
Wow, 4000 exactly, what are the chances...... frankieallen Dec 2016 #22
Whats your point? Ellipsis Dec 2016 #23
He's questioning the legitimacy of this Lokilooney Dec 2016 #27
No... really? Who asked you? Ellipsis Dec 2016 #28
Drip drip bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #25
Why did they bother? duffyduff Dec 2016 #29
 

Kotya

(235 posts)
16. Don't get your hopes up.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:47 AM
Dec 2016

It will most likely be nothing more than wishing America a safe and happy holidays.

Silver Gaia

(4,883 posts)
14. ??? I see 4000 signatures on that document.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:27 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:33 AM - Edit history (1)

Did you look at it? I suppose we could research some of the names to see if they check out. But I don't see any discrepancy in the number of signatures.

ETA: To clarify, the OP is correct. I think the person whose tweet was copied in the OP just made a typo.

 

Kotya

(235 posts)
15. I wonder how many of them are lawyers.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:45 AM
Dec 2016

Surely, lawyers would know that delaying the electoral College would require congress to pass a law and then have it signed by the President.

Before Monday.

Silver Gaia

(4,883 posts)
17. That's why I suggested that anyone could do research to determine the veracity of the signatures.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:31 AM
Dec 2016

I checked about a dozen names at random, and all were attorneys. As for your second point, I am not a lawyer, so am going to assume they know more than we do about that. This is not your average situation, either. Do we just sit around twiddling our thumbs and let our country go to hell in a handbasket (of deplorables)? I think we do any and every thing we can think of to prevent that from happening, no matter how much of a longshot it may seem. Nothing else really matters.

13. Bravo
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 02:44 AM
Dec 2016

Such a relief to know there are intelligent people out there who value of our democracy and willing to make a stand for it.

Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

tavernier

(13,258 posts)
21. I would angrily disagree
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 12:32 PM
Dec 2016

except that something in me says that Truman or Johnson or even Reagan would not just have allowed a Putin to take our country without some kind of an epic battle, even a falling on the sword as the last president of these United States.

bucolic_frolic

(47,026 posts)
25. Drip drip
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 06:57 PM
Dec 2016

Legitimacy of the Chief Birther is trickling down the drain

Funny how hatred returns to bite the hand that feeds it

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
29. Why did they bother?
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:42 PM
Dec 2016

Don't they understand if Trump is denied the presidency and the popular vote winner not put in instead, that it would likely cause rioting and even bloodshed because an ILLEGITIMATE person was selected instead and the voters' choices negated?

There are avenues to remove Trump if necessary. Trying to persuade a bunch of partisan morons who adamantly refuse to consider the popular vote winner, Hillary Clinton, is just pissing in the wind.

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