2016 Postmortem
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WOW..
The spiritual fight between greed and compassion is the megalithic challenge that is really at the heart of the universe and the point of the fight.
i wish I could write to tell you that this will all end well...??
We just elected one of the "-----------."
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)pbmus
(12,439 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)pbmus
(12,439 posts)And he doubled down on democratic messaging..or lack of it..
I get the why, he does not want to foment anarchy...he is still the president..
I agree with another post that we need to get our ducks in a row and put the facts out there
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And it was an excellent point that they did not cover issues and instead reported the info even after being told they were being manipulated. I think that's critically important. Maybe you don't?
Did not see him hammer Dems the way you described. I think the OP itself is disinformation.
lastone
(588 posts)Do what he should have and called out this whole fucking fiasco. Same weak shit we always counter with. Had it been a Republican ALL WE WOULD HAVE HEARD OF WAS THE HACK - FUCK!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)pbmus
(12,439 posts)lastone
(588 posts)Trump and the Russians, fuck we're fucked...
pbmus
(12,439 posts)To self protect..and correct maybe in 4 yrs..the real ? Is can the world survive 4 yrs of djt..
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Yep, because when we have mid-terms in 2018, and then another GE in 2020, the ruskies will be in FULL bore cyber-hacking mode--maybe even more brazen--and hand over the Deeper blue states like California (With a Dem super-majority), New York, Oregon, Washington to the GOP. On top of that, you know under a tRump DOJ voter suppression/disenfranchisement will be on 'ROIDS all over this country where minorities and Dems are concerned.
As you said, "fuck we're fucked." Who'll stop the ruskies? the GOP who now are now mostly in love with putin tang et al?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)still_one
(96,568 posts)this point President Obama could actually do.
There is nothing in the Constitution that calls for a do over.
The electors are not going to change the result. The only way to remove trump is through impeachment, and that is highly unlikely
We are screwed
ZoomBubba
(289 posts)Why does he need to go ape shit when he's already got the wheels moving? The FBI and CIA are now on board with each other, so pretty much all intelligence agencies are agreeing that Russia assisted Donald Trump with a disinformation campaign. He's been out there supporting that at least since this morning. It wouldn't serve a purpose to demean himself by going into partisan talk and sounding like Trump.
lastone
(588 posts)So while not weak not strong whatsoever in my opinion...
lastone
(588 posts)" Donald Trump is going to be very happy on the line that President Obama walked today"
Meaning he didn't cause any disruption in the status quo and nothing is going to f****** happen about Russia hijacking this f****** election and forcing Donald f****** Trump on us. End of f****** story...
ZoomBubba
(289 posts)... and I'm not sure what you think was missing.
lastone
(588 posts)Don't know what your watching but that was the weakest shit that could have possibly happened. I love Obama but sometimes his want to be a diplomat vs leader infuriates me.
still_one
(96,568 posts)impeachment. Very unlikely at this stage anyway
pbmus
(12,439 posts)I can respect his decisions to not create anarchy...
We must persevere to get the facts and present the truth..
lastone
(588 posts)It will be far too late to effect any change so basically it will have no impact and the last potential influence he could have had was not existent and an opportunity wasted in my opinion.
pbmus
(12,439 posts)To become an anarchy...
He played his cards close to the vest to secure a Peaceful transition..
I am not sure what you want him to do.... He did say there was hacking..
He is not going to scream and holler unfair and foment rioting..
Yes, repukes will like the fact that he did not cry foul too often..
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,914 posts)When Chuckie isn't overtly carrying water for the GOP he's busy spewing false equivalencies and little digs at Obama. Don't use Toad for your own purposes.
pbmus
(12,439 posts)We have to find other ways to rid ourselves of this abomination..called Trumpster
ZoomBubba
(289 posts)... with the latest on the FBI, I think the GOP's hand is about to be forced and they'll do it for us. The smarter ones seem to understand they're going to have a disaster we may not recover from in four years and apparently McCain is out for Trump's head if he can get it.
pbmus
(12,439 posts)That the country comes before the party...
Because we really have a kleptocratic kakistrophic klusterfuck and its going to soon be run by dirty energy..
The spiritual fight between greed and compassion is the megalithic challenge that is really at the heart of the universe and the point of the fight.
i wish I could write to tell you that this will all end well...??
We just elected one of the "-----------."
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)We have to take responsibility for our govt. It means using our critical thinking skills instead of our feelings to elect our We the People govt. Who the phuck gives up their access to healthcare, their civil rights, their right to make healthcare choices because they don't like the candidate who will make sure we get to keep those things and get more.
I'm angry but I'm definitely not angry at President Obama or Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders because I see the same thing happening with the discussions on who should be DNC chair. I like Tom Perez or that black guy from the south or Tim Ryan. Whoever it is I will support them because the person will be representing my core interests - healthcare, social safety net, jobs, civil rights, criminal justice, prochoice, freedom of religion, equal protection under the law for all folks including LGTBQ folks.
Even though it was a coup, I don't think it would've happened with a more informed, better educated and well read voting population. Donald Trump would've have been long gone during the primaries, which means a coup would not have been possible.
moonscape
(5,367 posts)"... I don't think it would've happened with a more informed, better educated and well read voting population."
And the solution to that starts with improving, not eliminating, public education.
But you have it exactly right. How does our system of govt function well without turning that around?
kacekwl
(7,513 posts)Too bad nobody heard it from our award winning media. Too busy writing and reporting pussy grabbing locker room talk. Black people beating themselves up at trump rallys. Every mouth breathing whore for Trump telling us what he ment to say, how he mis-spoke, everything he said was taken out of context. The MEDIA won the election for the tick tac sucking moron as much as anything else.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)I must have missed it somehow. Or, perhaps you're projecting something onto his speech...
When will we make an end of attacking one of the best Presidents we have had in recent years? I hope it's soon, because we're going to need to find ways to accomplish things pretty darned quickly now.
inwiththenew
(987 posts)When he was saying how he was a Senator to his whole state and he went to areas that basically didn't like him to get his message out.
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Hillary could have been FDR, John Kennedy, and Pres. Obama rolled all into ONE, and with the corporate media never fact-checking but only covering tRump for ratings ONLY, with all of the voter disenfranchisement/suppression out there occurring that ran amok courtesy of the GOP, with "help" from the ruskies (or was it a 400 lb russian in a basement?), with our OWN FBI head Comey putting his entire body on the scale against Hillary/Dems, and with low-info (racist, sexist, flat out dumb-ass) voters who by the way, will blame Pres. Obama for the sheer disaster this country ends up in the next several years, Hillary IMHO had no chance at winning the presidency.
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Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)flamingdem
(39,926 posts)the statistics show that to be the case.
We all know Hillary would have taken it if not for Comey and funny business in Michigan, Wisc, Penn and no doubt Florida.
pbmus
(12,439 posts)We have to show the facts and harp at our reps to get them to continue the fight..
radical noodle
(8,604 posts)Unfortunately, I couldn't watch but I'm sure the transcript is somewhere.
My money is on the President. The whole time he's telling everyone that there's nothing to see here, you can bet there's really something going on that he doesn't want anyone to see yet.
Don't forget how cool he was at the Correspondents' Dinner the night of the Bin Laden raid.
pbmus
(12,439 posts)I do not think they have been fighting with all they have yet...
It was the Russian disinformation campaign, the media, and Comey
still_one
(96,568 posts)Senate lost against the establishment republican incumbent in swing states
Ironically Russ lost by more than Hillary, and if every third party voter and self-identified progressive who refused to vote for Hillary voted for Russ, Russ would be Senator now
In fact if just the votes that went to Stein went to Hillary in the key swing states, Hillary would be President
Also, nice distortion what President Obama actually said