2016 Postmortem
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Did James Comey Cost Hillary Clinton The Election? We Asked The Late-Deciding Voters.Sam Stein
Huffington Post
There is little disagreement that voters like Rainey ― the late deciders ― were ultimately responsible for Trumps election. But a month and a half after his victory, an argument persists over why they voted the way they did. Clintons defenders blame FBI Director James Comey, who opened up a new investigation into Clinton-related emails 10 days before the election, only to close it a week later. Clintons critics say a campaign that was outworked and outsmarted in the Rust Belt states is merely in denial.
In interviews with a number of late deciding voters ― found through various social media networks ― a less elegant explanation emerges. Comey was a factor for some but not others, and even then, its not clear how decisive his letters were. For many voters, random, often arbitrary moments from the campaign proved motivating in often unexpected ways. That Clinton left herself vulnerable to their whims is the story of the election as much as the eleventh-hour pronouncement from the FBI director.
I thought, Do I dance with the devil I know or dont? Michelle Hart recalled. And I realized Im calling them both devil.
The Comey letter didnt bother Hart. And, indeed, the night before the election, she found herself considering a vote for Clinton after being inspired by first lady Michelle Obamas introductory remarks at a rally in Philadelphia. But then Clinton came onstage and delivered a milquetoast speech that seemed, to Hart, to lack any passion. The next day, she wrote in Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) as her choice for president.
But for some of the other late deciders who went to Trump or avoided Clinton, there seems to be a creeping sense of guilt. Shutt, of Iowa, said he wished Trump would abandon the campaign-like rhetoric hes carried over to the transition. He hasnt blown anything up yet, he said of the president-elect. But thats a pretty low bar, I know.
"He hasnt blown anything up yet"
TheCowsCameHome
(40,210 posts)If her lead was that thin, there were plenty of other factors in play already.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,535 posts)uponit7771
(91,671 posts)The rest is guessing
TheCowsCameHome
(40,210 posts)just like all the pollsters. lol.
She was up by about 9, according the their worthless polling.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)up until 11/9
TheCowsCameHome
(40,210 posts)Absolutely worthless, the whole lot of them.
I'll never trust them again as long as I live.
uponit7771
(91,671 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)to be in charge of the bombs in order to blow things up.
He's building the network of people he needs to be able to do just that after he's sworn in.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The Comey's new investigation changed the focus.
But, I agree that it shouldn't have been that close anyway. The election proved Americans -- particularly those susceptible to white wing dogma -- are much more racist/bigoted and ignorant than we thought.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Yep. Because stopping Hillary became their #1 goal and if we were going to nominate a candidate like Clinton, we should have had a strong, credible and effective response to this sentiment.
And we didn't. The campaign's response was pretty much "that guy's a monster" instead of addressing the very real concerns voters had with trusting her.
Amishman
(5,795 posts)Trump was such an awful candidate that remove even one of these factors and she wins.
The focus going forward shouldn't be on Hillary, but on our overall weakness and what can be done to fix things. If Comey/WikiLeaks/sexism/campaign goofs were the only problems; then we'd control Congress, state legislatures, and governorships.
brush
(57,404 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 27, 2016, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)
provisional ballots to POCs that were then not counted for example.
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)that having a black man become one of our greatest Presidents in our countries history will not cool off white racism, it will only heat it to a boil.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Hillary's been attacked for 30 years by the Right and the Left, and he can only managed some sympathy for her opponent because the victims of a sexual predator came forth saying that he did exactly what he said he did to them. He should be ashamed of himself.
uponit7771
(91,671 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)jalan48
(14,352 posts)this late in the election.