2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIntel Expert: Trump 'One Step Away From Treason'
Malcolm Nance took to Twitter today to slam Donald Trump after the torrent of love from Trump to Julian Assange and Putin.
1. Held my suspicions but now convinced Trump is fully aware that both Russian intelligence & Assange elected him. Praise=Pay back.
2. Trump was an unwitting Russian asset until July 27th when he asked for Clinton emails he acknowldgd they were working in his interest.
http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/intel-expert-trump-one-step-away-treason
Have Trump put under oath and testify officially.
uponit7771
(91,754 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Stooge DJT fits the bill, like putty in Pooty's hands. Nance wants the tax returns now!
Raster
(20,999 posts)...He is already well over the line.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)Trump crossed that line a long time ago.
LaydeeBug
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CentralMass
(15,538 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)woodsprite
(12,201 posts)meow2u3
(24,919 posts)He IS a goddam traitor!!!
GoCubsGo
(33,012 posts)Probably more than once.
Crunchy Frog
(26,977 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)in terms of not being in a declared war
which only Russia apparently declared
but we (congress, MSM) pretend not there.
onenote
(44,628 posts)And demanding that all diplomatic relations with Russia be severed?
UCmeNdc
(9,650 posts)You have half the country still not believing the Trump deception.
The Democratic members of congress are going to be steamrolled by the Trump administration with GOP helpers.
onenote
(44,628 posts)There is nothing that would prevent Democratic members of the House and Senate from introducing a resolution formally declaring war on Russia.
For Trump to fit the Constitutional definition of a traitor, he must either have been levying actual war (i.e., taking up arms) against the United States. Or he must have been giving aid and comfort to an enemy. While enemy is not defined in the Constitution, it is defined elsewhere in the United States Code: the term "enemy" means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States." The term "hostilities" is defined as "any conflict subject to the laws of war."
So if you want to go after Trump for "treason" the first step is for the US to make Russia an enemy for purpose of the treason clause by engaging in a conflict subject to the laws of war. And the clearest way to do that is for Congress to declare that a state of war exists with Russia.
I should add that a question that has been debated without clear resolution is whether a president could veto a declaration of war...
brush
(57,495 posts)Cha
(305,406 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)Dem response seems wimpy to me regardless.
Republican leadership is obstructing big time!
onenote
(44,628 posts)Something that is important to those of us who have been labeled traitors in the past for refusing to serve in the Vietnam War, or counseling others not to serve, or even for protesting the war and blocking the entrance to military bases etc.
Crimes likely were committed by the Russians and it would be no surprise if Trump was somehow complicit in those crimes. But whatever his participation was in those crimes, it won't constitute treason under the Constitution.
I've explained it elsewhere, for those that care.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8416159
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2671875
triron
(22,240 posts)But seems he is likely guilty of some law (perhaps the Logan act?) and could be shown by a thorough investigation?
onenote
(44,628 posts)participated in criminal activity. The history of Logan Act prosecutions makes it an unlikely vehicle for charges against Trump.
yodermon
(6,147 posts)I wasn't aware that Adam Yahiye Gadahn was actually convicted of treason.
onenote
(44,628 posts)and then killed by a drone while in Pakistan.
brush
(57,495 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)Just asking
brush
(57,495 posts)is even more serious. It overlaps with sedition in doing and saying things to overthrow the government and adds working with a foreign enemy.
Treason is punishable by death, don't know about for sedition.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,165 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)liberal N proud
(60,945 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)tanyev
(44,508 posts)A very slippery low slope.
UCmeNdc
(9,650 posts)Slippery Com Man....